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I recently discovered a rather severe bug in 64-bit VBA and asked about it on Stack Overflow. Because I guess this constitutes a significant and interesting question, it was quickly among the most upvoted unanswered questions of the tag.

Now, a fellow investigator on the subject posted some interesting new insights as an answer which according to this is, of course, a good thing, despite not actually solving the problem. I upvoted the answer because it is "useful" and contributes to the research about the bug.

What I didn't realize was that even without accepting the answer, just by upvoting alone, my question no longer counts as "unanswered" and thus loses potentially important exposure. I did report the issue to Microsoft wherever I could but considering it's VBA, a fix may take a while.

Was it right to upvote in this case? Isn't it counterproductive that such a question doesn't count as "unanswered" anymore?

Edit: To clarify what I mean, the following filter will no longer include my question:

Search Method

Edit 2: It can be found by searching for [vba] hasaccepted:no and sorting by votes but obviously between lots of questions that actually do have a valid answer without a green checkmark. So I guess this is just a limitation of the system we have to live with, since forcing green checkmarks would come with other problems and I know this was already discussed in the past...

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    Even if you didn't upvote it, your question would still have a new answer and thus no longer be unanswered.
    – M-Chen-3
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 5:13
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    @M-Chen-3 if the answer had no upvotes, the question still counts as unanswered. I guess you were right because someone else would have upvoted it soon anyway. This still doesn't solve the problem that questions with non-answers that have upvotes don't count as unanswered anymore, but maybe this compromise must be made, see my comment on the answer to this question...
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 11:04
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    I'm not sure exposure on the "unanswered" tab is that useful - I rarely check it for the tags that I follow because the top-scoring questions tend to be unanswerable (for various reasons). I suspect most regular answerers will have different strategies for finding questions to answer. So if the answer deserves an upvote, upvote it. And besides, (almost) anyone can upvote an answer, so it isn't something that you can control. Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 12:07
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    @snakecharmerb While I agree that high voted unanswered questions may often be unanswerable for most people, in my opinion that doesn't make them any less interesting, which is why I do check that tab from time to time. Even if these problems can't be solved, it's often important to know they exist. It would have certainly helped me save time when I worked the entire night debugging a VBA project before eventually finding the pitfall. In other situations,not knowing about a bug like this may even be dangerous, eg. when porting an old project to 64-bit, expecting if-statements to work normally.
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 14:55
  • This issue I faced multiple times but in other way, recently stackoverflow.com/q/63984862/7920473, OP didn’t want to throw his question away from radar. Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:00
  • Was the answer useful or helpful? That's why it's upvoted, because that what upvoting is for
    – Caius Jard
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 17:19
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    Given the amount of reps you got from that question, You could easily start a bounty with the intent of providing more exposure to the bug
    – TheMaster
    Commented Dec 13, 2020 at 13:21
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    A similar thing happened to me too...
    – FZs
    Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 15:19
  • @GWD The same thing happened to me with this VBA bug which is a bit more generic than yours Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 9:45
  • @CristianBuse yeah it's an unfortunate limitation of Stack Overflow. I have already seen your post and it scared me away from using interfaces for now ;) I thought about possible solutions for this problem, my best bet would be a filter using the criteria: 1. No accepted answers. 2. Question has more upvotes than answers. I think these two filters combined would be very useful for finding interesting questions but unfortunately, criterion 2 not available and I doubt it will be implemented any time soon...
    – GWD
    Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 9:58
  • @GWD Yeah. And Microsoft fixing the bug is even 'less sooner' :). For this VBA x64 bug, I found somewhere on a MS forum that the bug is known at least from 2011, yet still not fixed. Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 10:20
  • @CristianBuse haha I think Microsoft doesn't care about VBA anymore... They probably want people to switch to Office Scripts asap
    – GWD
    Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 10:23
  • @GWD I wonder if I were to delete my answer to your question, and then you were to edit the question with the extra cases, would that violate the site policies? And would that make it visible again under search for unaswered? Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 10:24
  • @CristianBuse I don't know, but please don't do it. It's your research and you should get the credit/rep. Also, this won't solve the underlying problem... As for visibility, I guess yes, but don't do it!
    – GWD
    Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 10:27
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    @GWD Yes, that would be useful. Try [vba] hasaccepted:no score:10 and then sort by newest Commented Jan 14, 2021 at 10:52

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Yes. You upvoted a useful answer. That is how SO works (Should work). If you want more exposure place a bounty. People can still filter on no accepted answer. If this is a bug, the real answers are likely to come from Microsoft as most of us can't peek into the innermost workings; only guess from the outside.


Here are some of the help search booleans:

isaccepted: yes/true/1 returns only answers that have been marked "accepted"; no/false/0 returns only answers that are not marked accepted.

hascode: yes/true/1 returns only posts that contain code blocks; no/false/0 returns only posts that contain no code.

hasaccepted: yes/true/1 returns only questions that have accepted answers; no/false/0 returns only questions with no accepted answers.

isanswered: yes/true/1 returns only questions that have at least one positively-scored answer; no/false/0 returns only questions with no positively-scored answers.

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    I just checked and unfortunately, this is incorrect. If I filter for "no accepted answer" it doesn't show up anymore, because now an answer with upvotes exists. Well, I guess it is that way because otherwise, loads of old questions with unaccepted answers would clutter the search results, so false positives might be unavoidable :/
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 10:58
  • It does show up but you are right, it is not easy to find. I had to do vba hasaccepted:no created:2020-11 and then sort on newest and found it on page 2 (and this is in a low volume tag :-( ). Disclaimer, I am not the world's best searcher. Were you to place a bounty, the question could be found within seconds. I looked at searching to find with bounty (hypothetical) rather than use the dedicated tab and ended up with the ugly vba hasaccepted:0 closed:0 locked:0 hasnotice:1 created:2020-11 Oof.....
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 15:34
  • I don't think a bounty makes sense in this case. I agree that it would give it higher exposure for a week, but most likely nobody will be able to solve the problem. This issue will probably exist for a while before it gets fixed. Also, when you know about it, working around it is not too difficult, so personally, I wouldn't even gain much from a solution. It's people who don't know about it yet who potentially could spare themselves a lot of trouble just by knowing about it in the first place...
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:30
  • I just noticed you edited your answer, for the record: In my first comment to this answer, we were talking about the "unanswered" tab when browsing a tag. This is equivalent to the "isanswered" boolean and it's probably responsible for 95% of exposure old unanswered questions get.
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:38
  • Yup. Hence my line indicated the answer will likely come from Microsoft.
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:38
  • I edited as my filtering on no accepted answer would be via hasaccepted. I was trying to clarify. I agree with you about the unanswered.
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:39
  • I edited again, I was confused for a bit, turns out I didn't misunderstand the filtering. Check out my updated question where I clarify my search method. I think the other search booleans not used by the GUI are more of theoretical nature, does anyone actually use them?
    – GWD
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 16:58
  • I use some of the search booleans. But to be honest, with the low volumes in VBA I usually scroll through last 24-48 hours looking at titles/tag combos. For higher vol e.g. python, I have a pre-set custom filter but still have to manually sort by newest (boo!)
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 12, 2020 at 17:04
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    You think ~180k questions is low volume? 0.o [vba] is... 2 spots away from being on the 1st page of /tags... and there are 1774 pages.
    – TylerH
    Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 14:38
  • @TylerH I apologise if I have mispoken. Is the daily volume for VBA that high compared to other tags? I monitor, for example, Python as well, and it seems the volume there is much much higher.
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 16:50
  • @QHarr Question frequency might be a different matter altogether (and of course such an old, ancillary tech will pale in comparison to first-class language tags like Python, JavaScript, C#, etc.)... but overall volume-wise, it is pretty high :-)
    – TylerH
    Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 16:52
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    ^^ Aha. I meant what you have eloquently differentiated! @TylerH
    – QHarr
    Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 18:09
  • But it's not an answer. This is not a forum. It is a Q&A. Please do not encourage such activity. Commented Dec 14, 2020 at 22:52

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