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I've recently been banned from flagging posts because some of the submitted flags in the last 7 days have been declined. However, reviewing them as suggested by SO, I noticed that of the seven declined flags, 6 resulted in closed posts, some of them being even heavily-downvoted (so I don't think the flag I raised was wrong).

Is there any action taken with moderators when they have clearly misjudged, the same way as we are banned from certain actions when not using the tools the right way? Or maybe the flag was not the right one? (I flagged as 'very low quality').

I read in a similar post (user asking why flag status did not correspond with post status result - declined flags resulting in closed posts and accepted flags resulting in non-closed posts) that one should not worry about the ban, because it's harmless and that if the question got closed, in the end, it achieved the desired result.

But I'd like to better understand how all this works to provide better value to the community.

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    "so I don't think the flag I raised was wrong" - That would depend on the type of flag, and the reason the posts were deemed unsuitable for SO. Sep 16, 2020 at 15:03
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    If we're talking a bout close flags, that's not a case of mods declining the flag is it?
    – Kevin B
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:04
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    There should be a penalty for mods. Maybe ban then from handling flags for a while.
    – user12867493
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:07
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    Does this answer your question? Off-topic flag declined because of strange reason
    – gnat
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:07
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    Looks like a triage review got invalidated probably because the post got closed. I expect your flag to be linked to the triage review. Its non-positive outcome might have given you the declined flag. That still is weird but would explain. FTR: no diamond moderators seem to be involved in that question, at all, for what is publicly visible
    – rene
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:16
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    That post needed to be flagged for closure, no need to raise a VLQ flag. Reserve those for gibberish posts.
    – yivi
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:17
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    @yivi The only flags available to me are Spam, Rude/abusive, needs improvement, duplicate, VLQ, and In need of mod. intervention. Am I missing something?
    – 89f3a1c
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:21
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    "Needs improvement" is the one you want. The labels were changed recently to make them "more friendly". In this case, that might have lead you into error. There is no perfect wording in any case, whatever was chosen was going to leave some users unhappy about the choice.
    – yivi
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:22
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    Unfortunately the dialog doesn't indicate that "needs improvement" opens up a new dialog. You can play around with the different options just to see where they lead on any post as long as you do not push the big blue button :) Note that "A community-specific reason" also opens up a new dialog..
    – Scratte
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:29
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    Ok, I think I now better understand all this, thanks to you all! I really thought such questions were correctly marked as VLQ. One last request: is there any post explaining in some more detail when a question should be flagged as VLQ vs close?
    – 89f3a1c
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:31
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    The flag you used needs to be evaluated by a moderator, and the "needs improvment" one by the community. Oh, this really clarifies all my doubts now! Thank you!
    – 89f3a1c
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:32
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    This answer by a mod might be useful. There's rarely a reason to flag a question VLQ. If you believe it should be closed, flag it as such ("needs improvement" etc.). It doesn't need to be handled by a mod but by the community first. Sep 16, 2020 at 15:35
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    Does this answer your question? When is a *closeable* question a *very low quality* question?
    – Stephen Rauch Mod
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:38
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    @StephenRauch it clarifies the things that were brought up later in comments, but it has nothing to do with the original question.
    – 89f3a1c
    Sep 16, 2020 at 15:50

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It's difficult to answer your question because it seems it's based on a false premise (that these flags were incorrectly handled).

But adhering literally to the question: unless one has reason to believe a mod is acting "incorrectly" with non-trivial frequency, it would make no sense to have "consequences" for the occasional flag-handling error by a mod.

Many mods are human, and thus make mistakes. And even when not making mistakes, they do have to make judgement calls and sometimes one can disagree with a mod judgement. That's fine.

But what kind of "consequence" would you imagine a mod suffering for making a mistake? Preventing them from doing their exception-handling job would run against the site's best interests. And besides, there aren't many options besides stripping their diamond from them, which would be incredibly severe and counter-productive.

If you encounter something you believe was an error in moderator judgement, more often than not you can simply shrug it off. It may have been an error, or maybe it was simply a difference in understanding. Or, as it was in this case, the error was not on the mod handling the flag.

If you believe the matter would benefit of additional clarification, you can bring up specific cases here in meta. This things serve to solidify consensus, so we can better adjust our expectations from moderation and so can have a more consistent moderation style in the future.

(And, if you really believe something is wrong with how a mod is acting during their duties, let me refer you to this other answer)

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    "Many mods are human" :)
    – BDL
    Sep 16, 2020 at 16:05

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