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I recently flagged this answer because it was a flippant response and not a real attempt to answer the question.

The flag was declined, with the explanation "they are not for flagging inaccurate or incorrect answers". If you can't flag a flippant, inaccurate, incorrect or generally unhelpful answer then what can you do about them and what are flags for?

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    You can flag for rudeness but the "Not an Answer" flag is for posts that aren't even trying to answer the question. For example, if someone posts an additional question as an answer to your question you could use the NAA flag for that. (I wouldn't use the Very Low Quality flag, apparently there's still disagreement about what it's for.)
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 30, 2020 at 22:22
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    Wrong answers can't be deleted. I believe they get mass downvoted, and that's the most anyone can do.
    – 10 Rep
    Commented Aug 30, 2020 at 22:32
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    FWIW, given that other user's recent meta post, I think you two were talking past each other.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 30, 2020 at 22:33
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    Don't see how taking this aggressive approach helps your chances of getting a solution. Leaving civil comments like "this doesn't work because..." and letting the answer stand improves chances someone else might read that and provide an alternate solution building on what is in the first one
    – charlietfl
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 1:43
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    @charlie: OK, "This doesn't work because...", 1. There is no such directory. So his claim I can "easily spot" it in the directory structure is false. On the contrary, I can "easily spot" there is no such directory to find. If I were to spend the time it would take to find and change the line in the process to what he suggests then it would only throw exactly the same error again. 2. CMake is not, as he implied, a drop-in replacement for MSBuild. CMake and MSBuild do not do the same job. Therefore both his suggestions are guesswork and they are both incorrect. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 4:51
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    @10Rep wrong answers can be deleted. When they are scored < 0 users with 20K of rep or more will delete vote such answers. The < 0 score rule does indeed require that not every visitor upvotes a wrong answer "because of their effort spend posting it"
    – rene
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 7:03
  • @rene Well, I don't have that privilege, so forgive my ignorance.
    – 10 Rep
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 15:34
  • @10Rep yeah, it is a long way. Worst is between 10K and 20K. You're then trusted to delete questions but can't touch answers....
    – rene
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 16:26
  • Your example is not an example of what he did. @GeorginaDavenport It’s not supposed to be an example of what they did. You said at one point in the comments that opinionated answers are against the rules. That’s not true. I put the example in my reply to demonstrate why it’s not true. I was not arguing that the actual answer was correct or not rude. I was saying we can’t flag an answer just because it has an opinion in it.
    – BSMP
    Commented Sep 1, 2020 at 16:00
  • @BSMP, very well but it seems paradoxical to me to disallow questions which seek POV answers but then accept POV answers. In either case an opinion-based answer was not sought and the description of MSBuild as "absolute crap" was vulgar, nonconstructive and surplus to requirements. In addition to that, as I have said previously, CMake is not merely a drop-in replacement for MSBuild, and in fact I was using CMake already as part of the same process, to generate MSBuild projects, which herein is a project requirement, for programmers using Visual Studio to develop applications for Windows. Commented Sep 1, 2020 at 21:04

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I declined the flag, and I did so because, to the untrained eye (read: me), it looks like an answer. This looks like a new user saying "This doesn't answer my question", especially in light of the snarky comments you traded with the poster

You are doing nobody a favour if you don't really know what the answer is. Everybody supplies help for free here. It is no reason to post junk responses and waste everybody's time.

As Robert Harvey noted, a mod flag would let you add some context as to what you think the problem is. If it actually is flippant, it's not obvious, and being belligerent in comments won't help your case any.

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  • If you hadn't noticed, that answer you've highlighted was in response to his, in which he, after I queried his response, gloated that he was "doing me a favour" and because he was answering my question "for free" and not paying him, I have no right to question him. Despite the fact his answer is incorrect. I notice you didn't quote him telling me to use CMake or calling MSBuild "absolute crap", despite the fact opinion-based answers are disallowed on SO. Not to mention, CMake is not a replacement for MSBuild. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 5:39
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    I certainly didn't pay any attention to or assigned any significance to your gender until you pointed it out. I'm afraid you are being over-sensitive.
    – tripleee
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 6:06
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    @GeorginaDavenport For what its worth, the text from the user you mention here has been either deleted or edited out; those comments weren’t considered OK. Rudeness is against the rules.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 7:41
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    @GeorginaDavenport You're making some assumptions in the comments, that I think are a bit of a stretch. First it seems you're assuming the tone in the Answer on your post on main is based on your gender. Why would you make such an assumption? Second, you're assuming the gender of the answerer. Again, why are you making such assumption?
    – Scratte
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 9:52
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    @Scratte: I don't think either of those points is particularly pertinent. You might also notice quite a lot of assumptions have been made about me. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 10:07
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    @GeorginaDavenport You're right. It's completely irrelevant and unlikely to be the reason for the quality of the Answer, so I don't understand why you brought any of those aspects up. I do not see any assumptions being made by others about you in this post though.
    – Scratte
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 10:16
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    @Georgina I mean..... Really take a step back and see how you react to ppl helping you? I'm not saying the downvotes are warranted. but there is a bit of an intense reaction on your side when ppl post. Machavity explained why he didn't action the flag, you jump on 'youre sexist'. Someone else comes in to explain why it may not be that... 'I wasn't talking to you, who are you?'. Can you... Maybe see how you're rubbing ppl the wrong way? Don't get me wrong. Doesn't justify drive by downvotes on your stuff... But being polite, calm and contained always provides better results :). Good luck!
    – Patrice
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 10:40
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    @Georgina also known as 'two wrongs don't make a right'. Yes. In general, it serves your purpose better and doesn't make you look at odds with anyone. And btw, you jumped on the 'Im a girl and this makes me feel like you're sexist', so saying that gender is irrelevant is.... Kinda false. Anyway, sorry for trying to point out you attract more flies with honey than vinegar.... I'll keep to myself next time someone comes on meta to 'ask a question' when in fact all they want is 'I have to be told I'm right or this is unacceptable'. Have a good day, and again. Good luck
    – Patrice
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 11:28
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    @GeorginaDavenport If the answer is wrong then the clear action here is to downvote it and comment why it's wrong. I am by no means saying the poster's deleted comment was right, either, but the way it played out to me is the comments got heated so you flagged it NAA because it was, in your view, wrong. That relies wholly on a moderator or reviewers to know enough to both agree and delete, which is not how NAA works. Again, if you want to make the case that he's being unserious (and it's a weak one at that) mod flags are the way to go.
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 12:15
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    Because you flagged it Not an Answer. That's something we deal with hundreds of times a day. If you want a quality judgment, that's not what NAA is for, because we tend to err on the side of keeping things that look like answers. I call it an attempt at an answer because it ostensibly suggests something to try. Whether or not that suggestion is useful is something for downvotes.
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 12:34
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    @GeorginaDavenport Just because an answer is wrong doesn't mean it's not an answer. It just means it's a wrong answer. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 13:19
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    @GeorginaDavenport "who hasn't bothered to think about it" - According to whom? you? For all you know they've put genuine thought into the answer and genuinely think it's going to help. And considering the user has answered 2000 questions and has a gold badge and amassed over 25k rep, it's pretty obvious that's the case. They intended it to be helpful answer, if you fail to see that then that's on you. It is an answer, even if it's wrong. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 13:26
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    Did you try reading the documentation (you know the one that clearly states the command is just ispc and that gives the ispc.exe file in the bin folder as the answer suggests.) Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 13:39
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    Yet you've failed to put any of your MSBuild configuration details into your question..., so what do you expect people to say? Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 13:49
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    @GeorginaDavenport that's already a prerequisite when you ask. We have an entire help center page dedicated to this: stackoverflow.com/help/minimal-reproducible-example - some effort is expected from you before you ask, and being able to reproduce the issue is critical if you want an answer Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 13:52
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Despite SE's maxim that "standard flags should be used whenever possible," I prefer a custom flag for these sorts of things.

Cast a custom flag with the description "flippant, inaccurate, incorrect and generally unhelpful answer" and see what happens. Just don't expect moderators to curate technical content; it's not their job to determine whether an answer is "good" or not.

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    I agree with you there and you're right in point out that mods don't judge on technical correctness of the answer, so why do you suggest to write "inaccurate" and "incorrect" into the flag description, then this won't (and shouldn't) be part of a mods judgement?
    – Tom
    Commented Aug 30, 2020 at 23:41
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    Those were the words that the OP used. Commented Aug 31, 2020 at 0:11

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