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I recently stumbled on a question with the tag. I thought it was off-topic. A brief scan of the 159 questions with this tag reveals a majority of opinion-based questions (in my opinion, of course.)

The answer to Can I ask design-related questions on Stack Overflow? is:

In general - no. Such questions are beyond the scope of Stack Overflow

The tag has no usage guidance. Some of the questions are also tagged with (274 questions, previous synonym-request, usage guidance "ideas that guide developers toward certain goals in software design.") which would seem to have a similar conclusion.

Which brings me to with 1566 questions which, if it's on topic, would be a good synonym target for . It was previously mentioned here with a comment suggesting burnination.

Its guidance:

the activity of deciding what ... [is] required in order to create an effective piece of software.

This is a key part of the Systems Development Life Cycle which is the primary context of Software Engineering Stack Exchange.

Proposal

At a minimum I would think and should be synonyms for .

More importantly, the tag wiki for these design-related tags should discourage (if not outright prohibit) their future use.

At the maximum, the tags should be removed and the off-topic/opinion-based questions closed.

Are the tags causing active harm?

The tag has only been used 10 times in the last year. However, and are actively attracting off-topic questions on a regular basis.

My evaluation of the burnination criteria, applied in general to all three of the above tags:

Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

Broadly, it describes the context. However, it is so broad that it is ambiguous. It attracts opinion-based questions on ethics, preferences, starting from scratch, thesis advice, tool recommendations, and more.

Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

As cited above, "In general - no."

Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

No. On-topic questions would have to be related to a specific design principle, with code. "How do I apply the X design to this code" gains no information with a design-related tag.

Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

Broadly, yes. But the common context of code design/software design/design principles is not an appropriate context for questions on this site.

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    Didn't we create two entire new sites for whiteboard style and code critique questions, because they didn't mesh well with practical problems unique to software engineering?
    – Braiam
    Aug 23, 2020 at 20:16
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    Related: We are out of new [design]s; seems very similar to some old, undesirable tags like [coding-practices]. Aug 23, 2020 at 20:59
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    On the topic of design-principles, we have solid-principles, dry, yagni, etc. Can there even be an abstract on-topic question that can be tagged with design-principles that is not about a specific principle? Aug 23, 2020 at 21:12
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    Just for the sake of it, I also have a similar burninate-request still open about code-cleanup, which is in the same sense a meta tag. And could with the same reasoning be cleaned up
    – Lino
    Aug 24, 2020 at 7:11
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    Bad_code_design?! Aug 24, 2020 at 11:49
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    I haven't heard the term "code design" before but it sounds potentially narrower than "software design", in being restricted to just design considerations expressed in code. (As opposed to things like, calling external services, databases, broader software architecture considerations etc.) Aug 24, 2020 at 12:01
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    If you don't like some tags, that doesn't mean they must be removed
    – Gigino
    Aug 24, 2020 at 14:04
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    @Gigino Is "OP doesn't like this tag" really the only thing you got from this Meta question?
    – TylerH
    Aug 24, 2020 at 15:28
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    Toss theory (1671 questions) into the discussion as well. I actually like that tag (and the others) but don't like many of the questions there... Aug 24, 2020 at 20:59
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    Is there some way to make the tag only usable in conjunction with some more specific tag? It seems incredibly useful for sorting and searching questions. In general I would suggest that approach for any "meta" tag that provides value, but doesn't by itself qualify a question to be on SO (or whatever the SE site may be). Of course, I have no idea what burninate means, so maybe that is the current suggestion.
    – DylanYoung
    Aug 25, 2020 at 17:13
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    @DylanYoung meta.stackexchange.com/questions/120640/…
    – MattDMo
    Aug 25, 2020 at 18:17
  • @DylanYoung Tag info should also be useful reading And if not, it should be fixed do that it is. Aug 25, 2020 at 22:57
  • @Braiam what are the two new sites for whiteboard style and code critique questions you mentioned?
    – typo
    Aug 26, 2020 at 2:58
  • @typo one of them is already mentioned in the question.
    – Braiam
    Aug 26, 2020 at 3:24
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    @TylerH Yes, not much more
    – Gigino
    Aug 26, 2020 at 7:02

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I object to being a synonym for , because it is potentially more general. It can involve principles from engineering-in-general, or other fields of engineering. Or it can regard hardware-software-codesign. If that's not the case - please make an argument to that effect. Also, "design" and "design-principles" are similar, but not identical - like and which are justifiably separate.

So I would split the suggestion regarding from the suggestion regarding . It seems the first suggestion has merit.

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    In the context of stack overflow and the software engineering stack exchange design-principles must be applicable to software engineering and not engineering in general. Aug 24, 2020 at 14:38
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    @PedroRodrigues: Not really. A question may involve programming, but also a system in which the hardware was designed according to some (non-software) principle.
    – einpoklum
    Aug 24, 2020 at 15:00
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    @einpoklum How such hardware was designed is irrelevant to the question because hardware topics are off-topic here.
    – TylerH
    Aug 24, 2020 at 15:24
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    @TylerH exactly. That was my point. Aug 24, 2020 at 15:27
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    @einpoklum The question may very well involve hardware, as they often involve contacting external systems. The system design of such external system, however good or bad, is not a topic of discussion in here. The software system that interacts with that external system is. Aug 24, 2020 at 15:29
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    @TylerH: Maybe it is and maybe it isn't. I wouldn't presume to make a sweeping call about this "en passant" when considering the "code-design" tag.
    – einpoklum
    Aug 24, 2020 at 20:48
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    @PedroRodrigues: See my answer to TylerH. Maybe so, maybe no.
    – einpoklum
    Aug 24, 2020 at 20:48
  • For me it seems like a very reasonable tag in questions like this one Aug 26, 2020 at 8:56
  • design-principles also applies to UX design which is very closely related to software engineering. Having that as a tag would be extremely unclear.
    – CWSites
    Aug 26, 2020 at 13:54
  • @CWSites: So please open a different burninate/mass-retag post about it.
    – einpoklum
    Aug 26, 2020 at 14:03
  • @einpoklum, I don't want to create a whole other conversation, just giving some feedback to the answers posted here
    – CWSites
    Aug 26, 2020 at 14:32
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I don't see why any of these three tags is actually on-topic to the site.

  • calls after primarily opinion-based questions, asking for what coding-style is better than the other and one could also think it should mean to "designing code" in the way of "developing code".

  • is beside being about off-topic design choices very broad and unclear.

    If your question is focusing a specific principle then you should be able to identify the design-principle directly and everyone knows which principle you mean. Adding seems redundant.

    With that loose focus, I think it also provides the space to post opinion-based questions similar to .

  • tend like to be an object of opinion-focused questions to chose what preferred style or design to apply.

    Also I think it has a very decent touch of ambiguity the same as . It could stand for stylistic choices at the software development or creating software in general.

    In both cases, it gives a reason to be burninated.

Conclusion:

The tags might be on-topic on other sites of the network but I think not so on Stack Overflow. Questions about stylistic choices (designs) and preferred styles are off-topic to the site. Beside that, is too broad and ambiguous and is broad and redundant.

My personal feeling:

Burninate all three tags.

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