Up front edit to point out that downvotes and existing questions do not address any of the points I have made. I will tweak my post to reflect accurate comment functionality, but the point remains the same, and unanswered.
I have been using Stack Overflow for a really long time (although only for about 2.5 years with an account). Only in the past day did I get enough reputation points to comment on answers and questions, although this would have been my primary mode of interaction with the site over the years, if I had the ability.
PROPOSED SOLUTION
Have an aggressive and separate rate limit allowance on comments and the reputation points associated with them. Say you're new to the site, you have a 5 comment allowance. If your comments are neutral (not upvoted), you get 5 new comments every n amount of time (once a month, maybe even once year?). If you get comments that are upvoted, you earn a new comment for every comment upvote (or something like that).
I think this or something similar would improve site functionality dramatically, making it far more welcoming to newcomers and people who have the good sense to know who the experts are and that they aren't one of them, without clogging the site with bad comments.
ANTICIPATING PUSHBACK
Why so long to get reputation points?
I mostly find the answers in existing Q&A's on this site! That's a good thing. There are lots of questions and lots of answers out there, and most of the time people like me can find what we need. The inability to upvote useful answers while using the site with only 1 solitary reputation point is frustrating, but nonetheless tolerable. (I do believe upvotes should be allowed for people new to the site, I don't think coding advice is the type of thing people upvote when it's unhelpful. But that isn't the point of this post). Stack Overflow is unique among the Stack Exchange communities when it comes to earning reputation points because of the proliferation of common questions and the objectivity of what a successful answer looks like.
Why have separate comment reputation?
Quite often I have needed to ask for clarification on an existing answer that it is almost all the way there. Asking a new question would inevitably be labeled as a duplicate. As a result, I then have to do more searching to find the details I need. This is frustrating, time consuming, and I think a major flaw in how this site works.
Why not add an answer or edit to get the reputation points?
By way of example, on this answer, I knew that there was a built in colors.to_hex()
method. This would make an appropriate comment. Editing the answer is, in my opinion, out of line, and unhelpful. The method the user included was very informative - it's a great example of how to convert RGBA to hex. It still lets the user know what the correct solution would be. Any edits to the answer would either require restructuring the entire answer (which is way too much work/very presumptuous) or would be hacky (an edit at the end saying "to_hex()" exists; in my opinion it's better to see this information in a comment).
Adding an answer is a whole other level of knowledge and effort. People who could use comment functionality effectively to ask for clarification or point out additional information on an answer may be several years out from feeling like they could answer any questions better than, or different from, existing answers. This was my case. In the above-linked question, I think I could now provide an answer, but it would require a lot of work for possibly no payout (no reputation points). Doing this to just get comment access creates a large barrier to many people. I thankfully finally had a new question I couldn't find anywhere on the site yet, and that's the only reason I am able to post here.
Edit
The site has reminders everywhere to not be hostile to new users, but nobody follows through on this. Everything about proposing a solution to the problem faced by many beginners is met with hostility instead of solution-seeking behavior. Aggressive downvoting for a question that does not deserve it (no comments were left giving the only useful feedback I have received so far - to account for spam in my suggestion, which I already partially accounted for - just answers and downvotes. What is wrong with people? This experience is awful.)
Regarding comments and spam, you mean to tell me that a programming site can't auto-detect spam comments? Even with human-guided machine learning? I'm fairly sure Twitter and plenty of other sites manage spam this way. "Use your time to copy edit the site to earn commenting privileges", they say. Well, what stops a bot from running questions and answers through a grammar check to be able to get commenting privileges? Nothing much. MS Word now has contextual edits - it catches doubled words (has for a while), tells you if you've used the wrong part of speech in a sentence, etc. Meanwhile, this arbitrary restriction is penalizing non-spam users of the site, and for what? Comments can be contributions just like anything else can be. Spam = bad. I agree. But why not lock an account that has even one spam comment reported? And all accounts that upvote it? All of this behavior should be incredibly easy to manage. I genuinely don't think it's the massive hurdle people are pretending it is.