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My VLQ flag on this “question” was declined:

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It says:

Sample text:

Hey guys. As you may have already heard we will be working remotely for now.

But please make sure your productivity doesn’t go down. Keep working on your learning your profile and the interview questions. And work on the stack overflow project if you haven’t finished it.

Declined? Really? Really? The quality of this as a question is zero. It’s not a question at all. It’s not even intended as a question. It’s just occupying needless bandwidth. It even says, “Hi there, I’m occupying needless bandwidth.”

What does it take? I ask you.

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    Yep, that is nonsensical. Maybe just close the question though - there is no value in handling the answer independently.
    – halfer
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:18
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    While I agree that a VLQ flag shouldn't have been declined, raising such a flag on a question is basically useless and much less effective than voting to close. Your VLQ flag just puts the question into the Triage queue, where it's looked at by, nominally, 3 users, who are asked to determine if it's "Unsalvageable" (i.e. should be closed, or is spam / rude/abusive), or "Requires Editing" (i.e. put it in the Help & Improvement queue). An "Unsalvageable (close)" result puts it in the Close-Vote review queue, which you could have done by just casting a close-vote. A CV would have been faster.
    – Makyen Mod
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:28
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    I think that the mods generally want the VLQ flag to be used for straight up gibberish, as this one has enough real words to make someone have to read it to decide it should be deleted. As Shog said: "VLQ flags on questions that should be closed just create unnecessary overhead - someone else has to spend more time thinking about why the question needs to be closed because you didn't specify." (source) However, this question still meets the baseline of "obvious, unarguable garbage," so I wouldn't have declined the flag.
    – Davy M
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:31
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    @Makyen I was hoping for more than closure. But in any case, that’s not why I’m here; I would like the declined mark against me lifted.
    – matt
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:31
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    @DavyM Gibberish is exactly what it is. It is Lorem Ipsum by another name.
    – matt
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:32
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    This is another case where I wonder why the Very Low Quality flag even exists. Mar 23, 2020 at 23:33
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    @matt More than closure is closing and deleting, or spam / rude/abusive. You have the ability to both close-vote and delete-vote. If the post doesn't qualify as spam or rude/abusive, close-voting, down-voting, and delete-voting are your tools for accomplishing "more than closure". A VLQ flag doesn't even come close to accomplishing "more than closure". A VLQ flag is less than a close-vote. If you really think something should be directly handled by elected moderators, you need to raise a custom mod-flag and explain the situation and why it's something which should be handled directly by mods.
    – Makyen Mod
    Mar 23, 2020 at 23:36
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    It's a problem the network has with very narrow and prescriptive labels that would mean something to any reasonable person, but have a different and very specific meaning according to the site's rules. It's mostly bad UI and horrible UX. "Not an answer", "Requires editing" and "Very low quality" come to mind. Neither of these mean what you would think without many hours of SO life, and this leads to countless clashes.
    – yivi
    Mar 24, 2020 at 6:55
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    Other than that, a declined flag does not count against you in any meaningful way (unless you are getting several declined in a relatively short span of time). That being said, I agree that it kinda hurts. AFAIK, mods can't "undecline" a declined flag.
    – yivi
    Mar 24, 2020 at 6:57
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    Basically, take how much effort people used to have to make in order to ask a question here, double it, and that's how much effort it takes to get rid of crap like the above "question". /s Mar 24, 2020 at 11:42
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    Because it's not "punishment". It's just stopping you from volunteering where the result of your effort is not the desirable one, so you can see how to better spend that effort for better results. Here, reviewing poorly is not only a waste of your time, but a waste of other volunteer's time. You are momentarily blocked from performing work for free so you can get better acquainted with the rules, and your working for free is more effective in the future.
    – yivi
    Mar 24, 2020 at 14:54
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    I'll repost a comment I left earlier regarding this: Imagine a person tries to volunteer to a meat-space organization. And during their volunteering they end up hindering the organization work instead of helping it, doing things wrong and creating more work for other volunteers. One would expect this person would be told off, right? That way they can learn that they are not contributing effectively and can change their approach. Well, it's exactly the same with review.
    – yivi
    Mar 24, 2020 at 14:55
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    Personally if I were to flag such a question I would probably have chosen "rude/abusive". It's clearly abusing the ability to post questions.
    – TylerH
    Mar 24, 2020 at 15:55
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    I'd say the mod misclicked. Mar 24, 2020 at 21:48
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    "Not a real question" was a close reason, not a flag. This is, in my opinion, an ideal use-case for the "very low quality" flag. I feel strongly that your flag was correct. I've disagreed with the moderator who declined your flag on these same grounds before. The reality is that VLQ flags on questions are a bit of a roulette game, depending on which moderator sees your flag. If it were me, I'd keep raising them, but I don't obsess over statistics like declined flags.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Mar 26, 2020 at 1:40

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