I'm an inactive user who used to be active. I don't want to lose my reputation but I don't think I should have moderating tools and I wanted to open a discussion about whether user activity should be considered when handing out moderating tools
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There's not a lot that can be done here.
Sure, you could theoretically dump rep by setting bounties, but the best solution is really simple:
Just don't use your gained privileges if you're not comfortable using them.
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Of course I'm not gonna use them. But maybe we should consider user activity when issuing moderating powers. Just seems reasonable– yuviMar 16, 2020 at 11:51
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Also I don't wanna lose my reputation, I earned it. I just don't think it should be coupled with moderating tools– yuviMar 16, 2020 at 11:51
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1That's how Stack Exchange decided that would give users additional privileges though, @yuvi . If (high reputation) user do abuse/misuse their privileges though, they can be removed. (This is not me suggesting you abuse them to get them removed!)– Thom AMar 16, 2020 at 11:58
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@Larnu "That's how X decided" - so it can't ever be changed or discussed? come on. Also you're (a) losing out on all the very active users with lower reputations who might contribute and (b) If I was a nefarious hacker, I would find powerful inactive users as a very good avenue of attack– yuviMar 16, 2020 at 12:04
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2I didn't say it couldn't be changed , no @yuvi . But the context of your question has changed significantly now, which does invalidate several of the points raised here or make them less contextual; my comment was specifically about your scenario, and SE certainly wouldn't change their design for one person.– Thom AMar 16, 2020 at 12:05
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1@Larnu yeah I was just giving myself as an example, I wasn't making a personal request– yuviMar 16, 2020 at 12:07
At the moment, I think the site has more problems "recruiting" enough volunteers to keep up with the curation work that needs doing than interest in limiting/throtteling who may curate.
Certainly curation quality has precedence over quantity. On the other hand, from personal experience and observation there is a definite learning curve involved in curation. It takes time and interest (whether for rep points or other reasons) to learn about reviewing.
I don't see how "activity" - however you want to define it, you don't say, specifically - would be a better indicator than reputation. Some people with low "activity" might be very good curators, just as some with high rep might be. And the opposite can be just as true.
Either an individual has the interest and "talent", or they haven't. How they use the site, beyond the knowledge of its guidelines, isn't important in my opinion.
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Yeah I'm thinking reputation is not a good measurement for good moderators. Maybe a better system is one where the more you moderate the more tools become available. It means people who spend their time bettering the site would gradually get to have more power in doing so, which would also serve as an incentive as well– yuviMar 17, 2020 at 21:56
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@yuvi It's important to distinguish between "moderator" and "curator". A moderator has a diamond next to their screen name (so far, none have participated in this discussion). A moderator is elected by the site users (you, me - everyone with an account) to perform even "higher level" clean-up tasks (with more powerful tools) - we sometimes even refer to them as "janitors". To become a moderator, a certain rep minimum is required, but so are other things. So, as far as moderation goes, what you propose in your comment is already fact. Mar 18, 2020 at 6:18
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The vast majority of us are "curators": those who do they day-to-day jobs that support site quality. To a certain extent, what you suggest is already in-place: suggested edits that are approved assigns points up to 2k rep. That opens up a number of tools. Beyond that... There is some question whether those who are not active contributors in the Q&A side and thus divorced from the actual purpose of the site, should acquire so much power. We've seen it on the Meta site, in the past: ... Mar 18, 2020 at 6:26
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...there have been people who've centered their participation on Meta, rather than Main and began to dictate policy in ways that tended to work at cross-purposes with reasonable actions. (Think "rules lawyers".) So it's something of a balancing act. Mar 18, 2020 at 6:28
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, you'd have to set 30-something of them, but mostly because it just skews the balance. I'm pretty sure it might even be considered "abuse" of the system.