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I've been on SO for almost ~6 years. I'm sure there are many other, more active users from my country (and other countries) who are in the same situation as I am.

Why have you used a service which blocks users in some countries? I believe that you believe Stack Overflow is for all developers from all around the globe.

Seems like it happened last year too

Update: Unfortunately, the 2024 survey was also blocked in my country and I could not participate.

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    Blame the states, not SO.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:00
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    @Cerbrus That's still SO choice to use this service and not another elsewhere able to be used everywhere...
    – Tensibai
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:23
  • @Tensibai: It may well be possible that that service offers features others don't. The way this question is worded isn't constructive.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:25
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    @Cerbrus possible yes, Presenting someone a link to a survey they won't be able to take and not giving a word about it sounds wrong to me anyway.
    – Tensibai
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:27
  • Sure, it's not ideal, but I strongly doubt it's that simple.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:28
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    @Cerbrus Well, I assume SO is capable of doing Geolocation as well as the survey site does and to present a page saying "Seem you're from X, due to US law Y, the survey system won't work for you, we're sorry for that but didn't found a better option" instead of directing toward the survey page ?
    – Tensibai
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:31
  • @Tensibai: Because geolocation is foolproof :P If anything, the survey provider should have a decent error page instead of that crap.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:32
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    @Cerbrus I didn't say that, I just mean that when you can reasonably guess there'll be a problem, it's nicer to handle it yourself than delegate it with no control, specially when you're aware the delegated handling is bad
    – Tensibai
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:37
  • @Tensibai: The questionnaire link is is a direct link to qualtrics on the blog. You'd have to go through a intermediate page to catch those cases... That seems excessive.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 10:39
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    Use a VPN to access the survey.
    – S.S. Anne
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 18:50
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    @S.S.Anne that's what I did last year. But it not being fixed after a year means that SO thinks the data collected from these countries is not so important that they want to spend more money. I'm not going to waste my time to provide not that important information from now on.
    – saastn
    Commented Feb 7, 2020 at 5:16
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    Can you list in the question which countries Qualtrics blocks, as of 2020? Blocked in Iran, Turkey (Cuba?, N Korea?, Syria?, Crimea region of Ukraine?). Accessible from China, Russia(?). And are there ballpark estimates for the number of SO users living there? and survey response rate (via VPN)
    – smci
    Commented Feb 9, 2020 at 3:14
  • The Developer Survey is now hosted at stackoverflow.co. If you're encountering blocks for the dev survey, please open a new issue.
    – Slate StaffMod
    Commented Aug 13 at 17:13
  • Unfortunately, the 2024 survey was also blocked in my country and I could not participate Commented Aug 13 at 17:46

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Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, this is the same issue as what happened last year, and it is still something that is happening through Qualtrics, the survey provider that we are using. (Thanks yivi for your earlier response, your analysis was very accurate).

We decided not to switch from Qualtrics this year because we had already invested significant resources into automating data analysis with Qualtrics and do not have the bandwidth at this point to transfer the entire operation to another provider. We investigated using Qualtrics’ API to host the questions on our site (where there aren’t country-based restrictions), but their API was limited in the types of questions they supported. They don’t support our LIKERT questions that result in the most loved, wanted and dreaded technologies.

So we decided to continue hosting the survey on Qualtrics’ site, as we’ve done for the last two years. We regret that it is blocking some folks from taking the survey, and we will continue to keep this item on our list of things to investigate for future iterations.

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    Thanks for the explanation, so there is nothing that you can do to solve this problem now, which is okay I guess, but please do anything you can to fix this problem for next year(s). Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 17:23
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    The survey is effectively blocked for me too.Your third-party software provider, Qualtrics, does not work well with certain ad blockers and security software. Apparently I need to unblock Qualtrics in my Adblocker. My initial response might be construed as not very welcoming, so I am not going to post it here, but basically the answer is a resounding NO!
    – Alex
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 19:12
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    In the meantime I suggest removing such phrases as "we want our survey to represent everyone who codes" from the introductory text, since the company is fully aware that they are not providing that opportunity, not including everybody. Commented Feb 7, 2020 at 11:05
  • @AsteroidsWithWings: Better start localizing the survey in a couple of hundred languages then.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Feb 10, 2020 at 11:47
  • @Cerbrus Ideally, yes, but there's certainly a middle ground. I put forth that there exists a gaping chasm between "the survey is only available in the de facto international language of the internet", and "you are literally not able to access the survey at all from your present location". Commented Feb 10, 2020 at 16:59
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It seems rather daft Qualtrics interpreting that gathering survey responses for their American clients is a "technology export". I would understand not providing their service to clients (as SO) in Iran, but the location of the surveyed end-users seems rather less relevant.

But of course I'm sure their legal counsel knows better. I'm not a lawyer, not American, and probably very ill advised to give any kind of legal advise to absolutely anyone.

Last year Anita Taylor mentioned they hadn't expected this to be a problem, but that they were going to evaluate the possibility of changing providers for the following (this) year.

Since they haven't changed providers, we have to assume they either:

  • didn't find a provider that didn't block users in Iran (among other countries)
  • that those that didn't perform that kind of geo-blocking did not provide all the features that SO needed to have perform their survey.

We all know that in the end with this kind of choice is always a balancing act. No choice is perfect, but you choose the one where the benefits outweigh the total cost by as much as possible.

I agree it would be nice to have an official statement from SO regarding their choice of survey provider, and if they will keep evaluating different choices in the future. (Or maybe try to convince Qualtrics that they are not really exporting technology to Iran when Iranians answer survey questions?)

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    FTR Surveymonkey has the same kind of limitation in their terms of use (I didn't check others companies, that's just to said Qualtrics are not the only ones with this kind of limitation)
    – Tensibai
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 12:58
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    Why they using providers in the first place? I mean why they didn't build their own survey system (of course I don't know what exactly the provider provide for SO survey, server or survey system, or something else. but in any case they can use their own) Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 13:24
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    @Mehdi As with anything, it's a matter of balancing cost and benefit. Usually, a company would focus their efforts in their core business needs, and for things that are not part of that core would evaluate external solutions built by experts in that solution domain. To make an extremely naive comparison: companies that are not in the furniture business buy tables from external suppliers instead of building their own.
    – yivi
    Commented Feb 6, 2020 at 13:31
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    Building own survey webapp is doable for SO, more so since you’re anyways unable to benefit from Qualtrics ootb (API etc.)
    – C. Derx
    Commented Feb 25, 2020 at 5:29

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