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Many times I see an OP asking a question with attitude. Like:

  1. Don't suggest Google.
  2. Don't suggest this kind of solution. I don't want this.
  3. Don't downvote my question before reading.
  4. Don't suggest any SO link or other blog link.

How can I answer such a question? This is one of them.

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    Does it and anything to or clarify the question? If not, edit it out as fluff. Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 7:37
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    The best thing to do is to disobey. If you see someone asking "please do not downvote this," it is a red flag indicating that it needs to be downvoted. Good questions don't have disclaimers like that.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 7:38
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    Sometimes the questioner has certain limitations that make sense to him in his environment but not in general. This somewhats limits the general usefulness of the questions but doesn't make it offtopic. So point 2 is mostly okay. Point 3 goes without saying and Point 1 and 4 are actually the duty of the questioner - he should have researched the question thoroughly before. The linked question only shows 3 and 2, not 1 or 4? Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 7:40
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    @Trilarion: Point 2 is okay if it gives enough background to explain why a particular solution isn't useful in their situation. My experience is that the kind of constraint that prohibits Obvious Solution A also prohibits Obvious Solution B, but maybe not Obvious Solution C. Without knowing the constraints, answering such a question is a recipe for frustration.
    – Jon Skeet
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 7:47
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    Just apply your secret decoder ring. "Don't downvote" = "I know this question sucks and I would DV it myself" => DV. "Don't tell me to Google" = "I know I should have researched this problem first but I decided to not take the time" => DV. "Don't post a link" = "I did research it and know that it has a common solution, just tell me more about it". => consider. "I don't want this" = "I did research this problem, know that this is a solution but am looking for another one" => UV. Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 7:58
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    @HansPassant "I don't want this" = "I did research this problem, know that this is a solution but am looking for another one" => UV but only if the reasoning is explained, so it will be clear if a suggestion will be a more appropriate approach, but the explanation itself might show weaknesses in the logic or understanding.
    – ClickRick
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 9:20
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    @Trilarion I see it as disrespecting of both me and my time, but I know a rude flag wont fly, so I downvote and forget instead.
    – Magisch
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 15:37
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    @Magisch "Disrespecting"? - That is a bit too much in my opinion. Next thing you will downvote anyone with a spelling error because of .... Also, you kind of ignore the editing possibility. But of course you can do whatever you want. Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 15:46
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    @Trilarion I care a lot about intent. I will often fix and overlook many things for someone who is genuenly willing to listen and appreciates feedback. When someone sticks such a disclaimer in there it indicates 2 things: 1) They know their question is trash and they know the site rules, 2) they think they and their question are just so much more important that the rules supposedly don't apply to them. I consider that a little (alot actually) disrespectful. I usually try and assume good faith but a disclaimer as this is a direct indicator to the opposite.
    – Magisch
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 16:11
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    @magisch There we have the reason for the different views of us. I think there are alternative explanations for the disclaimer: it could also be a sign of: 1) uncertainty about the quality of their question, 2) bad experience in the past, which I would not consider really disrespectful and also not as a sole reason for downvoting. But it surely is a very subjective thing. One considers something as impolite, another one not. Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 16:32
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    "Don't downvote me" = "Don't tase me bro!" Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 17:55
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    Please don't downvote this comment guys. I worked really hard on it. :(
    – user3995702
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 18:16
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    There's no point in adding a "please don't downvote" comment to a question, ever. At best, it makes people read the question more critically than normal (making a downvote more likely, since people will be looking for things to downvote for). In the worst (and typical) case, it will prompt a "don't tell me what to do" reaction, earning an automatic downvote - that's human nature. And if the question is truly a good question, "please don't downvote" isn't necessary in the first place since you'll (theoretically) only get upvotes.
    – Mage Xy
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 18:54
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    @AaronLS: at 18.5k rep, you have quite some time invested in "trash"...
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 23:51
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    @AaronLS - it's not just me - that is inevitably how users sort questions on SO. There is no time for anything else. I challenge you to find a single question with shields of type 1,3,4 that is not very low quality. Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 7:17

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Most comments like that add nothing to the question, and should be edited out, as it's noise. As @Anders suggested in the comments, a comment explaining why text like that is considered "noise" would be a valuable addition.

Noise like this is often a good indication there's probably something wrong with the question, though. So, have a good look at the question.

However, Make sure the comment really is noise.

Things like:
"Don't suggest this kind of solution. I don't want this."
Can actually have a good reason, even if it's poorly worded.

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    Sorry, had downvoted before I reached the disclaimer, I suggest putting it at the top. Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 8:45
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    The punchline is always at the end.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 8:47
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    ... if there is a punchline. And the OP (or really anybody else) never appended anything else. ;-) Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 8:49
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    Btw. the editing proposal should also apply to "please do not downvote" or "why the downvotes". Instead of disobeying and additionally downvoting as proposed above, the better solution would be to just edit it out (and have a look at the question and downvote if the remaining part warrants it). Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 14:31
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    Apparently, 2 people read the complete answer, and downvoted it ;-)
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Mar 4, 2016 at 23:49
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    I agree. The only acceptable constraint, out of the original 4, was #2. Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 1:14
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    I would like to add that if you feel like it you can also add a comment explaining why that kind of instructions are frowned upon. Not mandatory, but helpful to OP if you feel you have the time and energy. Also, please dont downwote this comment. Wait, you cant! Ha ha! I win!!!
    – Anders
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 20:46
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    @PittsburghDBA Yep - though there should be a rationale so that people actually know why and can adapt. Commented Mar 6, 2016 at 8:33
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Most of the cited instructions are indeed pretty obnoxious, but I want to say a few more words about "Don't suggest this kind of solution. I don't want this." If you believe that a poster is wrong to say this, you are being very, very bold. You are declaring that you know more about the poster's circumstances and needs than the poster does. You are presuming that the poster doesn't just need help with his question, but that he needs help -- your help -- even figuring out which question to ask.

Now, some of the time, it's true, posters are really uninformed and really confused, and they really shouldn't be ruling that particular solution out.

But other times, the poster knows perfectly well about that solution, knows that it will not work for them, and knows that you are about to suggest it -- which is why, to save time, they explained up-front that they couldn't use it. By ignoring them, by suggesting that they have to use that solution whether they want to or not, you're helping no one, all you're doing is showing off your preconceived notions about what's acceptable or possible.

There's a related situation where a poster says "I want to do X" and a bunch of alleged experts pile on to declare that "X is impossible" or "X is a bad idea; you shouldn't even want to do X". This, too, can be intensely annoying and insulting to the original poster. If he didn't need to do X, he wouldn't be here asking about it.

In many cases, I believe, when a poster says something like "I know the conventional wisdom here is to use solution S, but I have a specific constraint and can't use S", or, "I know X is generally considered impossible, but I want to take a stab at it, can anyone help?", and if you believe that S is truly the only way to go or that X is truly impossible, the right thing to do is just move on. Don't downvote the question, don't move to close it as off-topic, don't post comments or answers declaring how wrong the poster is for asking that way. Maybe they're not wrong. (Maybe you don't know everything.)

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