Rambling introduction
Most of the other network sites are doing fine, but Stack Overflow… is currently having some issues. Could we revisit the Reputation for useful flag proposal?
The diamond moderators, I gather, are already rather good at marking helpful flags as helpful and unhelpful flags as unhelpful. The "automated" system does the rest. However, not flagging / closing things is currently incentivised by the system.
Our best moderation tool is the community. Community moderation is essential for the site's continued success. So why isn't it incentivised?
Proposal
- Helpful "flags" (including close / delete votes) should earn a small amount of reputation for the flagger, upon the "helpful" decision being made. I want to say +2, but +1 would be fine.
Even fractional reputation would be good, though I hate to think how that could be implemented. (A separate counter of "replings" that, upon overflow, would add a single point?)
This reputation is conditional on the state caused by the flag's action being maintained.
Example: If users A, B and C flag a question for closure, and users D, E and [ • tag ] F cast binding votes, they get the reputation. If G, H, I, J and K re-open it, they gain reputation and A–F lose the reputation again. However, if it's then re-closed by [ • other-tag] L, A–F regain the reputation, G–K lose it and L gets it for the first time.
- Flag limits continue to function as normal.
- (Depending on whether the SO diamond moderator team think this would be useful,) no such reputation bonus for custom moderator flags. This'll incentivise people to use the existing ones. (This might not be necessary, considering that custom flags will be less likely to get the "bonus" if they shouldn't be custom flags…)
Reasoning
Flags and close votes and stuff are currently dis-incentivised on Stack Overflow. You can get more reputation from writing an answer than dup-voting. The reputation system serves no purpose if it's not actively encouraging good behaviour.
Additionally, more flags on things as they come in has a two-fold benefit:
- Stuff gets dealt with faster.
- If things are hit with enough flags, the system (sometimes) deals with them "automatically", reducing the load on the queues.
This might be prone to abuse, but the existing flag limit system deals with that quite nicely. I anticipate a brief spike of flags upon implementation, followed by those who are abusing the system getting flag banned and no longer finding it efficient. (In anticipation of this, it might be prudent to only give pre-200-rep new users only a couple of flags until they've proven themselves with helpful ones.)
Please also note that the existing system is prone to abuse, too.
Many other sites are getting on fine with the system as it is. Stack Overflow of the past was getting on fine with the system as it is. Stack Overflow now? Not so much.
Would this proposal be useful? Have I missed anything glaringly obvious?