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I noticed that if you search google for "word to text command line" the very first result is a closed question on Stack Overflow:

How to extract just plain text from .doc & .docx files? (unix)

Although it's closed as off topic, the fact that it's the top search result suggests that it has gotten something right! Shouldn't it be migrated to another site? Software Recommendations was suggested in comments, but it seems like a candidate for Super User as well. In any case, it's a shame that the most useful link addressing this question is closed and posted on the wrong site. Seems like a broken window.

I should add that I don't see it as a "shopping list" question, although I see that it is worded in a way that might invite that interpretation. The title says "how to," and I think that's the right interpretation. I think it is off-topic -- but I don't think it would be on another site.

(I could have just flagged, but I don't think I have a good handle on the right way to propose migrations, so I decided to ask.)

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    Yes - migrated into nonexistence.
    – Ian Kemp
    Apr 24, 2019 at 7:36
  • "it's the top search result" - it's SO good, not that specific question. This should normally occurs with any other question. Over past years different e.g. C# sites moving down and SO up, it's over msdn currently. It wasn't my decision to avoid "asking for library" questions (that's solid amount of traffic), but I am forced to support it. Is it good or bad we will see in 10 years, maybe some other network will take over SO if they allow such questions, /shrug
    – Sinatr
    Apr 24, 2019 at 7:43
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    "The fact that it's the top search result suggests that it has gotten something right." Indeed. What it has gotten right is that people have found it helpful and useful. But of course SO is not primarily interested in being helpful and useful. SO's prime directive is to build a high-quality repository of answers to high-quality questions, but this question is (per SO's rules) not high-quality, which leads to the results you see. Apr 25, 2019 at 14:01

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No.

The question doesn't deserve to be migrated anywhere.

Migration is a function which allows us to move a question which is otherwise good but a better fit somewhere else.

So let's ask ourselves: is the question good?

No, it's not a good question.

The question is tacitly and explicitly asking for a shopping list, which is not a form of question we want to support anywhere on the network.

This is also evidenced by the answers which are just throwing recommendations out there as "try this"-style solutions. None of these are going to redeem the question.

Irrespective of what attention it's received from SEO over the years, this question just isn't good. Because it's not good, we shouldn't be migrating it.

(Besides, migrations for content that old can't happen at all since it's beyond thresholds for even diamond moderators. An employee probably could do it but given the damning evidence against it, chances of that happening are nil.)

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    I see what you're saying, but to me, it didn't read as a shopping list request. It read to me as a "how do I" question. But I can see how someone might disagree.
    – senderle
    Apr 22, 2019 at 17:13
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    @senderle - Are phrases like "Anyone know of anything they can recommend" or "wondered if there were any other suggestions" not enough of a hint in this context...?
    – Makoto
    Apr 22, 2019 at 17:14
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    I don't know what you mean by "enough of a hint." I see why someone might see those phrases and conclude that this is a shopping list question -- sure. To be clear, that's why I said "But I can see how someone might disagree." It's just not my conclusion, after reading and considering the question as a whole.
    – senderle
    Apr 22, 2019 at 17:17
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    "The question is tacitly and explicitly asking for a shopping list, which is not a form of question we want to support anywhere on the network." - Can you please discuss Software Recommendations specifically?
    – Kevin
    Apr 23, 2019 at 16:16
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    @Kevin: I'd argue that it's an anomaly. The blog post in 2010 clearly didn't motivate a site like Software Recommendations coming about; it was borne out of a pain here on Stack Overflow because users just kept posting about software recs. To this day I still have a hard time sending people along to Software Recommendations because it would feel like I'm throwing trash over the fence in many contexts.
    – Makoto
    Apr 23, 2019 at 16:56
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    @Kevin: It's also the case that Software Recs isn't really going for "shopping list"-style questions anyway. There's a lot of meaty details in what they expect a question to contain and what is or isn't acceptable there. The stereotypical "shopping-list" question is just a set of requirements with no scope or bound, which is the question we're actually discussing right now.
    – Makoto
    Apr 23, 2019 at 17:01
  • @Kevin: I would guess that almost every recommendation question on Stack Overflow or elsewhere (e.g. Software Engineering also gets a lot of them) cannot be migrated to Software Recommendations because it would not meet their quality standards and thus be off-topic there. They have those quality standards precisely because of the same reasons that recommendation questions are off-topic on almost all sites, in order to prevent and avoid the problems because of which those kinds of questions are unwelcome almost everywhere. Apr 24, 2019 at 22:51
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    @JörgWMittag: That's fine, but if you make a blanket statement such as "shopping list questions are not a form of question we want to support anywhere on the network," you really should not be surprised when people bring up SR.
    – Kevin
    Apr 24, 2019 at 23:05
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    @Kevin: I would argue that the rules put in place on Software Recommendations are precisely to ensure that shopping-list questions are off-topic there as well. The requirement to have a user story / use case / statement of purpose, a requirements specification, to show your research, they are all there to ensure that the question does not devolve into a shopping-list. Apr 24, 2019 at 23:16
  • @JörgWMittag: And I never said otherwise.
    – Kevin
    Apr 24, 2019 at 23:16
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    I disagree with this take. The top-voted answer purports to do this with nothing but standard Unix command-line tools. What's more, it's clear that the asker is not asking purely for tool recommendations, because the example they link to of any approach they've already seen is a short Python-based solution using no third-party libraries. If this is a shopping list question, then every how-to question for which a third-party tool could conceivably be useful is a shopping list question.
    – Mark Amery
    Apr 25, 2019 at 12:27
  • While I agree this isn't a great question, there are a host of problems with this answer and followup comments. First "Migration is a function which allows us to move a question which is otherwise good but a better fit somewhere else." this is incorrect; questions don't have to be "otherwise good for SO". A question can be quite bad, e.g. blatantly off-topic on SO, and be a great migration candidate because it's on-topic on another site instead. Second, the question's not a shopping list, but others have already explained that one. Third, because you don't personally approve of [1/2]
    – TylerH
    Apr 25, 2019 at 14:12
  • (cont'd) Software Recs has no bearing on the fact that, in reality, it's an equal site on the network, not some "well we need some place to direct undesirable content..." The argument that it is such a place falls apart when you consider they impose standards on the type and quality of questions that are allowed/on-topic there. [2/2]
    – TylerH
    Apr 25, 2019 at 14:14
  • @TylerH: A question which is objectively bad means it's also a bad fit for SO. A question which is objectively good but not a fit for SO is the only point in which "migration" becomes an option. Not sure how this was conflated; I never mentioned "otherwise good for SO" as an option.
    – Makoto
    Apr 25, 2019 at 15:20
  • Also @TylerH: I at least correct myself with my second response after looking a bit closer at what standards of questions they expect on their site, but I could be forgiven for assuming what kind of site it is, given that people who ask questions just like the one we're discussing in the OP often get referred to Software Recommendations, and often without any context or framing or expectation of quality. Honestly, it sounds familiar.
    – Makoto
    Apr 25, 2019 at 15:31
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Well, the question wasn't closed until 4 years ago; it spent the 4 years after it was posted NOT closed.

It was closed to illustrate the point that it's not really the kind of question we're looking for, but the upvotes clearly show that it has proven useful.

I don't think there's any problem with it being closed, with regard to its position in external search results. The fact that it is closed surely doesn't mean the information is somehow "invalid".

As far as the question of whether or not to migrate it, the first rule of migration is Don't Migrate Crap, and since the question is definitely off-topic and seeking recommendations, there's no point in trying to foist it off on anyone else.

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    A question can be both useful and off topic. Both aren't mutually exclusive.
    – Braiam
    Apr 22, 2019 at 15:36
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    @Braiam: I guess I don't understand your point. The cited question is closed because it is off-topic. Apr 22, 2019 at 15:38
  • I certainly don't think there's any particular problem with it being closed on Stack Overflow, since it's not on topic for Stack Overflow. That's not what I'm asking.
    – senderle
    Apr 22, 2019 at 15:43
  • @senderle: Could you clarify, then? I read your question to say that you didn't think it should be ranked highly in search results because it is closed. Apr 22, 2019 at 15:46
  • @MarkBenningfield, do my edits clarify at all? My precise point is really that I think it would be on-topic on another site. And the benefit of having it be open would be to invite updates and new answers, as things change over time. If the consensus is that it is indeed a shopping list question as Makoto thinks, that's fine. It won't change my mind but I can accept that outcome.
    – senderle
    Apr 22, 2019 at 17:29
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    Closed is just the previous step towards deletion. At that point, useful information or not will be lost. Migration is a way to prevent information loses.
    – Braiam
    Apr 22, 2019 at 18:34
  • @Braiam: The question does not fit the criteria for automatic deletion by the system, so it would have to be deleted explicitly by someone. I don't think that's going to happen. Apr 22, 2019 at 21:07
  • @senderle: I agree with Makoto that the question is definitely off-topic; there's no doubt that it should be closed. And the first rule of migration is Don't Migrate Crap, so that's pretty much a non-starter. I suppose you could inquire on the meta-sites of all of the other SE websites and see if anyone wants it, but that would be time-consuming. Apr 22, 2019 at 21:16
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    Eh... Off-topic is one of the specific reasons we do migrate for (in fact, we shouldn't migrate questions that aren't off-topic). Just because it's off-topic here, doesn't mean it's off-topic elsewhere. E.g. software recommendation questions are fine on Software Recommendations. Don't migrate crap applies to too broad/unclear/badly written. However, I don't think there's a site where this question is on-topic.
    – Erik A
    Apr 23, 2019 at 8:41
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    @Braiam no. Closure is closure, deletion is deletion. The fact that badly received closed questions will be deleted automatically by the system does not mean that closure "is just the previous step towards deletion". It just means those questions are that bad. This not a good question, but it was well received (as proven by its score and answers), so I doubt it will ever get deleted. Apr 25, 2019 at 5:21
  • "and since the question is definitely [...] seeking recommendations, there's no point in trying to foist it off on anyone else." What if there is a site specifically for seeking recommendations? One site's off-topic could be another site's gem.
    – TylerH
    Apr 25, 2019 at 14:06

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