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So I've just been answering a question, and just as I'm finishing up my answer, I get the following pop up, and am unable to submit my answer.

This question has been closed - no more answers will be accepted.

If this happens once in isolation, it's not too bad, but this keeps happening to me, and I've spent a lot of time authoring carefully crafted, thoughtful answers, just for the entire effort to be wasted.

As you can imagine, this is very frustrating, and a very poor user experience. I even stopped contributing to the site altogether for quite some time because of this problem.

Could we please allow any in-progress answers to be finished and posted rather than punish the answerers for any perceived flaws in the question.

At the moment, any time anyone answers a question, they play Russian roulette, and could have their effort thrown away at a moments notice.

You can mitigate this by submitting a quick incomplete answer, and then editing it to improve it, but this is not always acceptable, and IMO is a poor practice to mitigate a very poor UX.

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    If this keeps happening to you, I suggest you stop trying to answer off-topic or low-quality questions.
    – user247702
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 9:55
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    @Stijn, I knew someone was going to say that. Have you ever considered that some of those people are the ones who need the most help? Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 9:56
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    While I understand and sympathize with frustration, making it easier to add answers to otherwise closable questions seems counterproductive for the site, if more lenient with good intentioned users.
    – yivi
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 9:57
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    @DoctorJones: SO is (or should be) not that much about helping single users. Either they ask a clear, concise question that will help a large number of people, or they are in the wrong place.
    – BDL
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 9:58
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    It's not about helping individual users, that's a collateral benefit. You can try steering users to chat for that, through comments for example. It might be more suitable.
    – yivi
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 9:59
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    Yeah @Bdl, that's the big problem with SO. That's why we had the "not very welcoming" issue. It's funny how a QA site has skewed it's objectives so much, that it's no longer about actually helping people. Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:00
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    @DoctorJones People asking low quality questions might need help, but not from here. Here is for high quality questions only. The fact that the askers still need help is irrelevant. The mission of this site is to make high quality QA, not to help everyone including people who can't or won't ask a clear and concise question. That's why it's even successful. If you want unfettered access to answerers, well quora is right over there, and the quality shows that.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:00
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    @DoctorJones: You got me wrong. SO is about helping people. But not in the sense of a personal helpdesk for every user. What SO always aimed to do is to build a knowledge base of high-quality questions and answers that help a lot of people.
    – BDL
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:01
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    No, as @yivi so eloquently put, helping people is a "collateral benefit", i.e. not the main goal. That's not how I see it, but that's the general culture here. I aim to help the person on the other side of the keyboard, and in turn, also help any future visitiors. I've seen way to many questions closed as a duplicate of a question that is a poor fit. We wouldn't do that if we had our priorities in order. The most useful questions get the most traffic anyway, so it doesn't matter if a question is closed, or remains open and gets very few page views. Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:04
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    @DoctorJones So this boils down that you disagree what the site's priorities should be. Fair enough, but I'm unsure you'll ever affect change there.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:07
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    @Doctor I didn't mean "helping people" is a collateral benefit, but helping individual users. You are helping all the future programmers that come looking for this knowledge. That the asker got helped along the way? That's a bonus. Apparently you want to use the site the other way around. It's not a huge surprise it can be frustrating now and then.
    – yivi
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:07
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    You can always post a new, high quality question to post that answer to. It is not lost, you have the text right there to reuse elsewhere. If the question was closed as a duplicate, perhaps your answer is worth moving to the canonical, if it is of such high quality.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:12
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    @DoctorJones: then come up with UI that still won’t let you post the answer. We put questions on hold explicitly to prevent answers being posted. We are not going to prevent closure if there are answers in flight or allow answers that have been started to be posted anyway. That goes counter to the goals that have made SO a success.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:25
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    Looks like this is the question you're trying to answer. Is there any reason why you don't answer it on the duplicate... or challenge the close if it's really not a duplicate?
    – Andrew T.
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 10:31
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    "I even stopped contributing to the site altogether for quite some time because of this problem." Hmm, I stopped contributing to the site altogether for quite some time because of the problem that too many questions that should be closed are getting answered instead.
    – jscs
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 18:07

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Robert Cartaino (a Stack Exchange employee) opened a discussion for a feature request on Meta Stack Exchange responding to this issue: Tell answer-author when the question is being voted to close

When I am in the editor writing an answer to a question, the system will notify me (in real time!) when another answer has been posted. This is presumably so I can see if the new answer may have rendered my post somewhat redundant.

Can we extend that same feature/courtesy to authors when a question is being voted to close?

Feel free to chime in on the discussion constructively!

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  • I'm glad something constructive has come out of this. Thanks for the link. Commented Jan 18, 2019 at 10:53
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At the moment, any time anyone answers a question, they play Russian roulette, and could have their effort thrown away at a moments notice.

That's only true if you pick questions you answer indiscriminately. Poor, unclear or otherwise deficient questions get closed. High quality interesting questions do not. So if you focus on answering those, you will rarely if ever encounter this problem.

Could we please allow any in-progress answers to be finished and posted rather than punish the answerers for any perceived flaws in the question.

That's the wrong angle on it. If a question is closed, that says that it is unanswerable for the purposes of SO Q/A. So, for instance, if a tool recommendation question is closed that is because we do not want answers just recommending tools to it. If a unclear question is closed that is because we do not want answers just wildly guessing, etc... .

If this happens once in isolation, it's not too bad, but this keeps happening to me, and I've spent a lot of time authoring carefully crafted, thoughtful answers, just for the entire effort to be wasted.

If this keeps happening to you, you need to be more discerning in which questions you choose to answer. Yes, that is not the reputation-maximizing strategy, but after all we want to build a lasting high quality Q/A experience here, not just play free helpdesk for everyone.

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    "If a question is closed, that says that it is unanswerable" either unanswerable or the answers posted to it would not be very useful, as is the case for the examples you gave.
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 16, 2019 at 14:16
  • @Servy And this is so, even if the question has an accepted answer
    – Raedwald
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 12:48
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Could we please allow any in-progress answers to be finished and posted rather than punish the answerers for any perceived flaws in the question.

No. To the extent that what you're talking about constitutes "punishment", such users deserve to be punished.

Users of this site are expected to answer on-topic, well-written, properly-scoped questions. Users who answer low-quality, poorly-stated, ill-conceived, or otherwise bad questions are harming the site by that action. Users who do bad things (even with good intent) should expect sanctioning (again, to the extent that stopping someone from answering a bad question is "punishment").

Such actions harm the site. They give the impression that this site is intended to support those questions, and would do so if some small clique of users would just stop closing them. So if on occasion, users who perform those actions have their time wasted by preventing them from doing things we don't want them doing... so be it.

And yes, sometimes the question isn't bad so much as a duplicate (though dupes can be bad too). And given SO's crappy search, I can understand why you wouldn't want to waste your time trying to find the duplicate. But, given that, if the question is closed as a dupe, then the OP still gets an answer. Yes, you lost the time you spent writing your answer, but the OP got what they needed. So just accept that the OP was helped and move on.

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    I get what you're trying to say, but please more specifically spell this out: nobody is ever punished on this site, it's just a website. A user account may have privileges revoked. Content may be downvoted, closed and/or deleted. But that's about it. Nobody is punished. No lashes. No scolding allowed. No sending to a room. No detention. No going to bed without dessert. No jail time. Nol slap on the wrist with a ruler. No 20 pushups. No community service. No nothing. If someone feels punished by site mechanics: get another Frappuccino and cool down.
    – Gimby
    Commented Jan 17, 2019 at 9:24
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    @Gimby The site does more than just downvote, close, and delete content. It also puts restrictions on users to prevent them from asking questions if they have a history of bad contributions. Those are punishments of the user as a direct consequence of their behavior, and it's an action taken against the account, not the content. There are also other punishments like manual account suspensions. How big of a deal those punishments are will vary from person to person, but they are punishments. Nicol Bolas is right that votes aren't a punishment, but the site does have punishments.
    – Servy
    Commented Jan 17, 2019 at 15:42
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I must give a 4-letter word on the heavy objection against this proposal - GOOD!

Compliment aside, it's really frustrating when you almost finished a decent answer, and surprised to see the question gets closed as a duplicate - that's BAD. You wasted all your efforts in this answer, and your draft probably won't be useful again, or even so, it's unlikely you'll be able find it out when you feel it could be useful again.

Of course, the situation does NOT apply when you're just a rep hunter answering all the bad or blatant duplicate questions. It's not an excuse to post an answer just for rep, instead of marking it as duplicate or voting to close accordingly. I mean, sometimes I just feel the question worths answering, and have absolutely no idea it could be closed.

In rare cases like the one described above, I try to force-submit my completed answer. Read more @@>>> https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/316139

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  • If you are saying that the opposition to the proposal is GOOD that means you agree with users who sustain that bad questions should not receive an answer, which contradicts your observation (I mean, sometimes I just feel the question worths answering, and have absolutely no idea it could be closed.) Do you agree with the naysayers/the downvoters?
    – Mari-Lou A
    Commented Feb 13, 2019 at 11:06

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