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I was recently downvoted without comment and dared to rant about it by asking nobody in particular "-1 for what? Supporting Windows correctly?"

The comment was blocked:

Comments cannot contain that content.

Don't comment on your downvote. If you think this post can be improved, please offer specific guidance. See: The Comment Privilege.

Given how it is worded, I think it was intended to be seen by people commenting on a downvote they gave, not received. The linked page gives the example of "-1, see previous comments you scallywag!" which also may suggest that the filter was intended to catch unconstructive comments that start with "-1".

A quick experiment suggests any comment starting with "-1" is blocked, and I'm concerned this might discourage people from leaving a constructive comment with their downvote, you know, like "-1 because it doesn't answer the question that was asked".

Scenario: SO user is fairly new and writes comment explaining downvote. Comment is blocked. User gives up and decides to downvote without comment in the future. How likely is this scenario? Unsure.

Not sure if this should be "discussion" or "bug".

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    Discouraging users from explaining their vote or commenting on somebody else's vote is entirely intentional. Nov 22, 2018 at 23:38
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    "Downvoted because it doesn't answer the question that was asked".
    – user2100815
    Nov 22, 2018 at 23:39
  • True, the word "downvoted" is not banned. @HansPassant, most people seem to think downvoters should explain their vote.
    – Qwertie
    Nov 22, 2018 at 23:42
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    Why does one even have to mention -1 or downvoting at all... Just leave a neutral constructive comment. Something like: "The OP asked for X... this seems to be close but does Y instead"... then if you can/want to suggest it, then also maybe... "If you change to using float division instead of integer division you'll get the desired results" (just making that example up for demonstration purposes) Nov 22, 2018 at 23:45
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    Many people say they want downvoters to explain. In reality, the vast majority just want to argue with those that do. Even less actually accept said constructive criticism. That barrier is status-by-design.
    – fbueckert
    Nov 22, 2018 at 23:54
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    Any comment about any vote at all is not constructive. A constructive comment would tell the asker how to fix their post, not tell the asker that they downvoted.
    – user4639281
    Nov 22, 2018 at 23:57
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    This post shows staggering amount of research about downvotes on SO and I voted appropriately. Nov 23, 2018 at 0:05
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    Why do you need to go 'I downvoted this and here's why'.... Why can't you go 'here is an opportunity for improvement I see in this question'?
    – Patrice
    Nov 23, 2018 at 0:07
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    'SO user is fairly new' but by the time they can downvote, they are at least at 125 rep, which means we can assume they know a bit about how the site works... Enough to know how to leave constructive comments...
    – Patrice
    Nov 23, 2018 at 0:13
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    You said yourself that you wanted to "rant" for it. The system doesn't allow you to do it, of course.
    – user202729
    Nov 23, 2018 at 1:13
  • −1, The main thing that is discouraging people from explaining downvotes is the reaction they get when they do.
    – ivarni
    Nov 23, 2018 at 7:35
  • Possible duplicate of Am I still supposed to explain my downvotes or not?
    – gnat
    Nov 23, 2018 at 9:12
  • This is not a bug. It's a feature.
    – yivi
    Nov 23, 2018 at 11:35
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    I've found that people tend to be a whole lot less receptive to comments stating something along the lines of "I downvoted because" (which is implicit in "-1") versus those that simply asking for clarification in a neutral manner. The former comes across as fairly egotistical and is a "closed" statement - it makes a statement rather than making a request or asking a question, which isn't actionable. It also focuses on what's wrong, rather than how to fix it. This is the same reason I think we should ban idownvotedbecau.se (if we haven't done so yet). Nov 23, 2018 at 13:50

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You can write out "I downvoted because X"; you don't have to use the shorthand "-1: X".

Furthermore, it's better that way. We really don't want "I downvoted because" to begin with. If you have a problem with the post, explain the problem with the post. That is, instead of "I downvoted because X", just comment "X". Whether you downvoted or not is irrelevant; the main point is "X".

In your example case, "-1 because it doesn't answer the question that was asked," becomes "This doesn't answer the question that was asked." Isn't that simpler?

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Saying explicitly that you downvoted someone creates the risk of "revenge downvoting" where the person will go around downvoting your other posts. So it could be argued that the "-1" block is good for the protection it offers.

Better to tactfully suggest ways that the answer could be improved, or point out why it doesn't answer the question, etc.

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  • +1, looks pretty accurate to me :) The feature is widely despised for its habit of producing false warnings. The proposal was the most downvoted meta question for a while, sadly it lost its lead. Nov 23, 2018 at 14:01
  • downvoted because there are protections in place against serial voting, and even if there weren't, this shouldn't be a real concern given the positive (possible) outcomes. p.s. please don't go around downvoting my posts.
    – Marc.2377
    Dec 19, 2018 at 21:03

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