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Today I noticed this in jobs listings, which I don't think I've seen before:

snip of a job listing showing one job tagged with Staff Pick 2018

Clicking through shows this on the job page itself:

Short sentence saying something about what Staff Pick is, but not much

What is this? Which Staff have Picked this, and on what basis? Is the job a staff pick, or the company? There's nothing about this on the blog.

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    It's that we (internally) voted their company pages and those are the winners. We only looked at their company pages (not their jobs). I've pinged somebody with more details to properly answer this one, but in the meantime check our this blog post we wrote on the employer facing blog.
    – g3rv4
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 12:12
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    Maybe we should display a link to that blog post next to the "staff pick" badge?
    – Max
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 12:44
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    Or maybe there's just better wording than "Staff Pick", since it has to do with the employer and not the specific job posting? Something like "Featured Employer" or similar? As written, it's pretty unclear as to even what is being identified as the "Staff Pick".
    – Sam Hanley
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 13:25
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    Or just remove it because it appears to hold no actual meaningful value to page visitors. It's just noise that doesn't tell anyone anything. I guess the intent is to reward companies that produce decent online shop fronts, and thereby encourage others to do better - which is a noble goal but again this badge has no actual direct value to readers here. Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 13:30
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    Does "staff pick" go to the company that pays the most by any chance? I can see the sales person now, "sure place x amount of job ads and we'll make you a staff pick, that sounds cool right?!".
    – Liam
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 14:07
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    Isn't that what community voting is for? To validate quality? I don't use the job board but... wait, can we not vote on job postings?
    – Tezra
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 14:51
  • @Liam I'm one of the devs who voted and can assure you that this was absolutely not the case. Adding an answer below to elaborate a bit.
    – Max
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 19:52
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    I want to be able to vote and comment on job postings.
    – mxmissile
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 13:47
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    @Tezra - its been asked for and declined. SO is too much against downvoting or reviewing companies...which makes Indeed a better job placement board.
    – JonH
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 17:27

4 Answers 4

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The Staff Pick applies to the Company Page, not the job listing.

We asked companies to update their Company Pages in September so that they may be considered for "Staff Pick."

The criteria we used was, first and foremost, completeness (did the employer complete all the fields?), supplemented by qualitative evaluation by developers and designers that work at Stack Overflow on how successful the content is in convincing a prospective candidate to consider the company as an employer.

This is part of our continuing efforts to improve the quality of Company Pages on our site and help Stack Overflow users discover companies they might not have known about.

Agree with you that the explainer copy on the badge could be clearer. We will update it to clarify that the Company Pages were chosen by Stack Overflow's own developers and add a link to the blog post to provide context. Thanks for your feedback!

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    I'm inclined to push back on this, though - what's the basis for thinking that completeness of a profile and the degree to which marketing copy is convincing is good grounds on which to designate an employer as worthy of extra consideration? Has any time been spent validating that these are actually higher quality employers than average? It seems like these employers are being recommended to Stack Overflow's users based on metrics which are disproportionately relevant to the health of the Stack Overflow Jobs product, not necessarily to applicant outcomes.
    – Sam Hanley
    Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 15:55
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    The "Staff Pick" label indicates that this is a stamp of approval, not a "dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's" type of verification. If you intend to keep this, in addition to making sure there is a link to the blog post, I would seriously consider rewording the text on that label, unless you actually wanted it to be a stamp of approval, but you need different mechanisms in place to have that so I bet that is not the case. Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 8:33
  • Some of my best jobs were in small companies that simply will not have the ressources to do all that verify. Does that mean they were bad environments? Because that is kinda what this gives as a feeling...
    – Patrice
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 14:34
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    Sorry this doesn't sound right at all. I once interviewed at a place that had all the bells and whistles - gaming, food, a nice looking office - they could not keep a person there longer than 6 months. So they would of been a "staff pick". Plain and simple - get rid of it ASAP. You're going to alienate other customers and mislead programmers.
    – JonH
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 17:25
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This is just subjective noise. It does not add any useful information to the job posting and should be removed. Why do I(we) care what a handful of people (mostly based in New York) think about a company?

Especially when this decision seems to be mostly based on looking at the pretty pictures provided by said company.

Should I base my career decision on a companies spend in recruitment marketing? I'm sure SO jobs would like me to do this, mainly because they make money from recruitment marketing.

Seriously what a load of absolute trite hokum.

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    Staff Pick === Company marketing/recruiting agents having the necessary skill (fill in textboxes and use buzzwords) to make their company profile page look appealing to the uninformed consumer. Got it!
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 17:51
  • Max lists some good metrics (blog posts, open source projects) that can be extra fields the company themselves can fill in. For some people these are important (like quite working conditions). Or, we could just leave good enough alone and not add unnecessary fields, either works for me
    – rath
    Commented Oct 13, 2018 at 13:25
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Seems like it'd be unnecessarily divisive among employers.

Presumably SO wants every employer to spend money with them for advertisements. What is a prospective employer going to think if they'll automatically be classed as "second class" (not excplicitly recommended) because of some very subjective criteria of staff opinion. I'd revisit my decision to advertise with SO if that was a possibility and I was an employer.

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I'm one of the SO devs who voted. If it helps, here's what I was looking for while reviewing a fairly large set of company pages:

  • Companies would generally stand out to me if they made me feel that they were truly making an effort to be an appealing place to work for developers.

  • An interesting "tech stack" section with links to open source projects and engineering blogs would be a huge plus to me. Just a bag of tags with no additional context- not so much.

  • In the "gallery" section, I'd mainly look out for a dev-friendly office environment (low noise, little distractions; ideally single offices).

Interestingly, our team compared notes after voting and we found that in some regards, we had quite different priorities. For some of us, technologies came first; others focused more on the product; and others would primarily be interested in the team they'd be working with.

Now, does a great company page guarantee that a company is a great place to work and the right fit for you? Of course not. The "Staff Pick" badge is just an additional signal we provide for your consideration. I will say though that some companies try a lot harder than others and there were quite noticeable difference between those who made the staff pick list and those who didn't.

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    The "Staff Pick" badge is just an additional signal we provide for your consideration. Does it really need to exist though? It could be read as some form of SO "endorsement" (intended or not)... Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 23:27
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    ... and were I advertising a role that I've paid for on the site and I see my listing come up next to something that'd been "judged" better so I'm going to potentially get less applications because of it - I'd probably not be overly impressed. Commented Oct 11, 2018 at 23:37
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    I'm not sure why this is downvoted so much as it clearly explains what the badge stands for (and what not).
    – molnarm
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 8:37
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    @MártonMolnár sadly votes seem to work different on Meta. They seem more correlated to opinion than correctness. :-/ Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 10:01
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    @stealththeninja its not a bug its a feature. Meta is the place where we discuss to see how we want SO to be, therefore we need a system to show agreement/disagreement. Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 10:03
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    @AnderBiguri understood. In cases where users simply explain how something currently works, it can be a flogging. Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 10:07
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    I don't mind a good flogging in the morning! Coffee's overrated anyways.
    – Max
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 13:51
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    Sorry this doesn't sound right at all. I once interviewed at a place that had all the bells and whistles - gaming, food, a nice looking office - they could not keep a person there longer than 6 months. So they would of been a "staff pick". Plain and simple - get rid of it ASAP. You're going to alienate other customers and mislead programmers.
    – JonH
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 17:25
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    @stealththeninja Meta questions also have a tendency to morph over time, or be reinterpreted -- this question only explicitly asks "what does it mean", but it also implicitly asks "is this really worth it".
    – Nic
    Commented Oct 12, 2018 at 17:41
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    +1 for explaining what it's for, as this is the answer to the question, but -2 cause it feels very unwarranted. I'd much rather users be able to upvote + downvote jobs. The problem with only allowing this upvoting, is that 4 people in your office may have agreed with it and 20 actual applicants may have disagreed with it, but we don't see the opinions of those people.
    – Tas
    Commented Oct 13, 2018 at 3:53
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    Can the staff also vote on the worst company pages? I'm interested in companies that are too small and/or busy to devote a lot of time to their recruiting pitches here. Commented Oct 13, 2018 at 22:15

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