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I have a question about Jenkins. As follows:

"In Jenkins when to use SSH site and when to use a node?

Am I supposed to post it here or on Server Fault?

Theoretically it seems like Server Fault is the more intuitive place, however, there are about 50 time more Jenkins questions on this site, and from a quick look most of them aren't directly coding related either.

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    I don't think SF would be a good choice. Did you consider devops.se? And that question by itself looks rather opinion based?
    – rene
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:40
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    @rene, I looked at devop.stackexchange. It has few Jenkins questions and fewer answers still. I realize that theoretically it would be the best place, but it's also the place where I have the least chance of getting an answer.
    – Uberhumus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:43
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    Your question does not seem to have enough substance for any site on Stack Exchange to be honest because anyone answering the question has no idea about your environment and how it is set up. It seems opinion and implementation specific to your situation. The docs don't seem to list any objective reason to do one over the other but then again I am not familiar with Jenkins. I would recommend Stack Overflow as Server Fault is for professional administration issues. Additionally, their help section points to Stack Overflow and others.
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:43
  • @MonkeyZeus. Thanks for the feedback. I was going to add more substance when I'll ask it, and I'll take your specific details to heart.
    – Uberhumus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:46
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    You're welcome. As long as you avoid soliciting opinions, drawn-out discussion, and provide a path for people to provide an objective answer then your question should be well received.
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:47
  • Additionally, I am not saying that you absolutely should not post at Server Fault but the bare question you presented will likely be ignored over there. If you need more guidance then make sure to check out their tours such as serverfault.com/tour
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 13:51
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    but DevOps is also the place where I have the least chance of getting an answer. ... funny enough the stats on % answered tell a slightly different story. DevOps and SF both have 78% of their questions answered where DevOps is slightly better.
    – rene
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 14:20
  • @rene If I ask a question in devops.se and it goes unanswered, can I re-ask it here? Is it legitimate to move a question in such a situation?
    – Uberhumus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 14:28
  • The only thing that should matter is: On which site is it on-topic. If that returns multiple sites, then chose one and give the question a chance there. There is no SLA for getting an answer.
    – rene
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 14:34
  • Just curious, which site did you decide to go with?
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 14:58
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    @MonkeyZeus Was moved to different task. Will return to it later today. I want to do more due diligence on my question, but if I'll ask it (I probably will), I'll try in devops.se. Checked Jenkins question specifically, and it looks like my chances there are better than they are here as rene said.
    – Uberhumus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 15:05
  • Nice, good luck!
    – MonkeyZeus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 15:08
  • Posted. devops.stackexchange.com/questions/4925/…
    – Uberhumus
    Commented Sep 6, 2018 at 16:42
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    What do you mean by "SSH site"? Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 5:56

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Pretty easy delineation

  • Questions about using Jenkins to run unit tests, cover code, etc. are on-topic as we're using the programming tool aspects of Jenkins
  • Questions about setting Jenkins up as a service, using Jenkins for deployment, etc. are off-topic as we need a server environment to run/deploy with.

If you need help setting up a server to run Jenkins, ask on Server Fault. If you want to use Jenkins to deploy code to your server(s) you can ask on Server Fault or DevOps.SE (since most systems use DevOps to do CI -> Deployment)

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    Couldn't you argue that Jenkins falls under the purview of software tools commonly used by programmers, though? Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 14:35
  • @EJoshuaS See my first bullet. Jenkins has things like running unit tests that are clearly within SO scope. But Jenkins can be run automatically on a server and trigger a code deployment to a live environment. That's way beyond SO scope. Better to ask experts in that area
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 14:40
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    Wouldn't those experts also be on Stack Overflow?
    – Makoto
    Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 14:41
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    @Makoto Not necessarily. While lots of people use Jenkins, they may not have set it up. That's why I try to get people to ask more niche questions on a SE site specifically focused on the topic you're asking about. You're far more likely to get an answer since they're not being drowned out by programming questions.
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 14:45
  • "using Jenkins for deployment" That is a bunch of nonsense. Developers often have to deal with that and have to write scripts or code to support it.
    – jpmc26
    Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 16:20
  • Also, DevOps doesn't even have an on-topic specification yet. Hardly seems ready for recommending general usage.
    – jpmc26
    Commented Sep 7, 2018 at 17:27

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