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I believe there is a bug in the bounty system description.

It says explicitly:

You cannot award a bounty to your own answer.

However, in the section about the system automatically awarding a bounty, it does not imply or explicitly state that the bounty amount can not be awarded automatically to your own answer:

If you do not award your bounty within 7 days (plus the grace period), the highest voted answer created after the bounty started with a minimum score of 2 will be awarded half the bounty amount (or the full amount, if the answer is also accepted). If two or more eligible answers have the same score (their scores are tied), the oldest answer is chosen. If there's no answer meeting those criteria, no bounty is awarded to anyone.

I have had an opportunity to test that mechanism and, sure enough, no bounty has been awarded. Thus I think the description should be updated to something like:

If you do not award your bounty within 7 days (plus the grace period), the highest voted not your own answer created after the bounty started with a minimum score of 2 will be awarded half the bounty amount (or the full amount, if the answer is also accepted).

[EDIT]

or:

  • All bounties are paid for up front and non-refundable under any circumstances (including awarding them to their sponsor).

I am not interested in "Why bounty was not awarded?". I am interested in having bounty system documentation coherent with its behaviour.

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  • Hmya, this is a core reason why the Docs project failed. It is not a programmer's nature to intentionally omit information. But absolutely crucial to keep the help accessible. There already is a support mechanism to backup the first-level help, google "why was my bounty not awarded" to find it. May 28, 2018 at 12:33
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    @HansPassant please see the edit; I doubt in this case accessibility will suffer from being precise.
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 12:48
  • It is just not accurate, bounties are in fact refundable. You can't add the "Except when ..." clause without it turning into a quagmire again. Hopefully you'll start to appreciate that what is there gets the job done well enough :) May 28, 2018 at 13:08
  • @HansPassant wait, are you telling me the "non-refundable under any circumstances" is just a lie to keep things simple?
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 13:16
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    Mods can refund bounties but it’s rare that they do. People with database access obviously can as well, probably other staff too I’d imagine. If that equals “lie” to you, then yeah, it’s a lie
    – Clive
    May 28, 2018 at 13:25
  • @Clive IMHO hacking the database does not count. But possibility refunding by mods makes the sentence as true as "it is not possible to become a president of the USA".
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 13:36
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    Which is fine, people are savvy enough to appreciate the intent of the sentence, and not worry too much about the rarest of edge cases that might make it inaccurate. When people post a bounty, they shouldn’t think they can get it back. That they may be able to under extreme circumstances is irrelevant IMO
    – Clive
    May 28, 2018 at 13:43
  • @Clive If you like to be lied to... I do not.
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 14:16
  • I’m not being lied to, only you are it would seem. And your motivation seems confused; a manual database change is fine, but a mod intervention which does the same thing through a UI means it’s a “lie”? Come on, if you’re going to be painfully pedantic, at least do it right!
    – Clive
    May 28, 2018 at 14:30
  • The first part of your question is unclear. Are you saying that the large description should repeat the line about 'your own answers being ineligible', which is literally the last sentence on the page before that description begins?
    – TylerH
    May 28, 2018 at 14:36
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    @Clive manual database change is intervention comparable to coup d'état in the president example while mod intervention is within the SO system.
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 14:51
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    No it’s not. A statement is either a lie or it isn’t, you can’t pick and choose based on obscure metaphors. Anyway, this is a stupid thing for anyone to be wasting their time on, so I’m saving us both and ending the discussion. Assuming it’s sunny where you are, enjoy the sunshine
    – Clive
    May 28, 2018 at 14:57
  • @TylerH The sentence is part of paragraph about manual awarding the bounty. The latter paragraph is about automatic awarding the bounty based on the opinion of the community. A policy in which the community (by voting) may award a bounty back to its sponsor makes sense to me. I do not think it needs to be repeated, it is enough to clarify that bounty sponsor is not eligible to the bounty either way.
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 15:00
  • @abukaj You're still not clear to me; are you saying the rules need clarification that you can't award a bounty to yourself? OR are you saying that there should be a way for a user to receive their own bounty if the community upvotes that user's answer on a bountied question? Because it looks like you're suggesting both.
    – TylerH
    May 28, 2018 at 15:03
  • @TylerH Neither of that. It is already said I can not award bounty to myself. I say that the rules need clarification that I can not be awarded the bounty automatically after grace period expires.
    – abukaj
    May 28, 2018 at 15:07

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The notion of a bounty sponsor receiving their own bounty has been covered at length by Shog, et al, before. It doesn't make sense for two main reasons:

  1. A bounty is a large block of reputation designed to reward outstanding content. Awarding a bounty to yourself wouldn't grant you any extra reputation, but it does give you a nice blue ribbon next to your content. This would be an unethical scenario (even if it's due to the fact that the community upvoted your post-bounty answer, and it is now the highest-scoring one), because you are essentially giving yourself the blue ribbon.

    To me this is kind of like Donald Trump saying

    "Some people are saying I should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Of course, I would never say that, but people are saying it."

    (paraphrased) He technically isn't suggesting that he should get the award, but by bringing up the subject he is implying he should be considered/awarded the prize.

  2. A bounty of, say, 50 reputation is a boon that you grant to a question and answer set that provides a lot of visibility. Questions can languish unseen for weeks or months, and then garner a lot of attention and a dozen great answers within the space of a couple days thanks to a large enough bounty. This visibility and propensity to receive answers has a cost, and rightfully so. The cost is what the sponsor pays out of their own reputation pool.

    It would not be fair for a person to sponsor a bounty on a question, afford it all that extra reputation and attention, and then get what essentially amounts to a refund when the bounty gets awarded back to them. That would be cost-free gaming of the system (disregarding the potential cost of writing a good answer—though that, too could be gamed by voting rings).

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    I don't think the question was about why bounties aren't given to the person who posts them, but more that the text should be more clear that this is the case. May 28, 2018 at 17:35
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    @NicolBolas I know, I was trying to address OP's continued comments that suggest otherwise, specifically his last one. I needed much more space than the comments allowed.
    – TylerH
    May 28, 2018 at 17:52
  • @TylerH there are two separate things: a reason beyond the policy (with which I may disagree but discussing it is not my point) and description of the policy. My point is the latter should be corrected to match the actual policy. I think it would be valuable if you link to the Shog at al. paper/post/other.
    – abukaj
    May 29, 2018 at 9:43

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