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I've noticed this pattern of behaviour a few times recently1. Since I just had a flag2 declined for highlighting it (admittedly, this is the first time I decided to do something about it), I thought I ought to ask what the right approach to dealing with this should be.

The pattern is:

  • Someone asks a question
  • Question receives various close votes, resulting in it being placed on hold
  • Someone else shows up and comments along the lines of "I can't believe other people voted to close this question. Here's my answer" where the answer is a link to an off-site resource (usually some kind of code-dump site)

My understanding is that we don't want people answering in the comments. We don't want people answering full stop when the question is on hold. And we don't want answers that are just links to off-site resources.

So if flagging the comment is wrong, what is the right course of action for me to take here?


1Different users, so far as I can recollect.

2I flagged as "In need of moderator intervention" with my comment as:

The question has been closed. Rather than respecting the group's decision making (or wait reopen), this user has decided to effectively provide an answer off-site and link to it in the comments.

Which was at the limit of the amount of text that can be included in a flag.

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  • What did you flag the comment as? did you use a mod flag?
    – Suraj Rao
    May 21, 2018 at 11:45
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    @SurajRao - I did use a mod flag. it didn't seem to fit the other flagging options. May 21, 2018 at 11:48
  • Pedantic nitpicking footnote: The primary issue with "respecting the group's decision making" here is that there was a definite decision in the first place, in the form of actual closure (even though it is subject to revision through reopen votes). I mention that because not long ago I have seen someone suggest that answering a question with close votes that is still open would be inappropriate for going against the community judgement -- that is not at all what you are saying here, but I feel it might be worth it to explicitly rule out that (mis)interpretation.
    – duplode
    May 21, 2018 at 12:50
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    @duplode - I was trying to convey this at the end of the second bullet. The question has been placed on hold. The reason the user chose to post in the comments is because the answer box isn't available to them, and the lack of availability of the answer box is a deliberate part of the design of the site. May 21, 2018 at 13:04
  • @Damien_The_Unbeliever Very well said. This is one of the cases in which the site mechanics and formalities serve to draw the line in an effective way.
    – duplode
    May 21, 2018 at 13:08
  • "My understanding is that we don't want people answering in the comments." I believe this strongly but have found a surprising number of people disagreeing. "We don't want people answering full stop when the question is on hold." Some even use this as a reason to answer in comments, which is double-ungood, but again is disturbingly popular. I've almost given up on this tbh - the days of SE's Q&A model being understood and desired by contributors and even some of the staff seem to be long gone. Shrug. May 21, 2018 at 13:24
  • @SurajRao: Whenever I have flagged answers-in-comments, the flag has been declined and I've been told off for "abusing" the flagging system. I mean you really just can't win.... May 21, 2018 at 13:24
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    What harm do you believe this does? The question is being closed and will be removed from the site, why is it harmful for the OP to get at least some help? Quite often these sorts of comment answers are a link to a tutorial or manual that gives the OP enough information to go on to ask a good question.
    – JeffUK
    May 21, 2018 at 13:42
  • (although ---- it depends. It may be legitimate to point out the typo in the comment to make others aware of the typo, and close it. (because afaik there are no other better way anyway :/ ) Thoughts? )
    – user202729
    May 21, 2018 at 13:42
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    @JeffUK - because if the commenter believes that the question is in someway answerable, they ought to be working with the OP to improve the question to the point it gets reopened and then providing a useful answer on the site. Instead, they link to a bunch of code based on their (usually unconfirmed) assumptions about the question. May 21, 2018 at 13:47
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    What do you mean by full stop? Is it just for emphasis? AFAIK, answering in the comments is the only way to circumvent the "on hold" thing.
    – anatolyg
    May 21, 2018 at 14:02
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    @anatolyg Wrong. The proper way to circumvent the "on hold" is to edit the question to an answerable state, vote to reopen it, and then post the answer.
    – user202729
    May 21, 2018 at 14:02
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    this is off topic but your profile pictures mask is off centre can you please fix that my ocd is going insane
    – L_Church
    May 21, 2018 at 14:03
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    @user202729: You mean like this and this? Doesn't seem to have functioned as a solution, despite my best efforts. May 21, 2018 at 14:21
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    @LightnessRacesinOrbit: Did you just answer this question by linking to an off-site resource? ;)
    – unutbu
    May 21, 2018 at 19:44

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TL;DR - The right course of action is to ignore those comments. If they say something rude/abusive, then flag that. But other than that, those comments are a waste of time.


Just to keep things in perspective, the purpose of Stack Overflow is to create a library of high-quality questions and answers. When questions are unsuitable for this purpose, they get closed and eventually deleted.

I'm mentioning this because some "new" users get an idea that the "old" users entertain themselves by forcing askers to dance to some mysterious set of arbitrary rules, those who misstep getting nailed with "You'll get no answers from us!" and multitudinous downvotes.

Nope. Withholding answers is not a weapon. The rules have meaning, and they all make sense if you keep the perspective of a library of high-quality questions and answers.

Most (if not all) close reasons are there to prevent answerers from wasting their time on bad questions. "Too broad", "Unclear", and "Duplicate" come to mind.

If someone tries to circumvent rules to answer a closed question, they're probably wasting their time. After all, the question has already been looked at by the community and deemed not worth it.

Back to comments: the reason people shouldn't answer in comments is that it's not as noticeable, it can't be voted on, can't be discussed as easily, and comments can get deleted at the drop of a moderator's hat. If someone answers in the comments, it's not that they're doing something bad, it's that they're not doing something good.

So, could the user whip the question into shape instead of commenting? Maybe. But we can't make them do it. This site is done on a voluntary basis. If it's any consolation, they can't earn any reputation from commenting.

Flagging comments on closed questions is probably a waste of time, unless something is rude/abusive. Flagging comments means that one our super-busy moderators would have to look at it and decide if it should be deleted. Most closed questions get deleted. That's wasting the moderators' time. So, if it's not rude/abusive, why bother?

One thing that I think is bad is if someone were to hang around on closed questions and confirm askers' suspicions that Stack Overflow has bad rules and discourage them from learning. That might be something to flag.

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    "One thing that I think is bad is if someone were to hang around on closed questions and confirm askers' suspicions that Stack Overflow has bad rules and discourage them from learning. That might be something to flag." -- Just to be sure: do you mean comments in the vein of "I really want to help you, but the swarm of pedants infesting this site is getting in the way"?
    – duplode
    May 21, 2018 at 23:02
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    @duplode Yeah, something like that. Basically, people shouldn't try to discourage new users from using the site. Note that I'm not really sure what to flag it as besides it being a mod flag. It may be worth a meta discussion (if it isn't one already). Being empathetic toward an asker is okay, but telling them, "This site is a hopeless mess, why don't you follow me on X other site..." - that's not a great thing to have going around. May 21, 2018 at 23:27
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    [1/2] I remember having flagged a similar comment of this kind (as "not constructive" -- that was before the latest flag reform); the flag was accepted (the corresponding Meta discussion was in a now deleted rant by the comment author). Still, I'm also not sure on the grounds I'd use now to justify such a flag. "Inviting an unproductive meta discussion in the comments" might work, but I worry a bit about that leading to a slippery slope, in which reasonable comments such as "This question shouldn't be closed as [...] because [argument that accounts for the site guidelines]" also get flagged.
    – duplode
    May 22, 2018 at 23:54
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    [2/2] On a tangential note, there is also a kind of comment which is vaguely similar to what you describe, but entirely benign: "While this is an interesting question, it isn't a good fit for the Stack Overflow format. You might want to post it on [some other site which is a sensible destination for the question]."
    – duplode
    May 23, 2018 at 0:03
  • @duplode I bounced this off a moderator, and they said that flagging it with something like "Trying to discourage person from using the site" (or words to that effect; my memory is fuzzy and I can't find the link) is good enough. Maybe it's not necessary to justify it overmuch, as long as the comment looks bad and there are a couple more links to back it up. To your second part, yeah, there's a similarity. I think the line is disparaging Stack Overflow instead of saying "your question isn't a good fit". Can you have a R/A where the target is the site itself...? :) May 23, 2018 at 4:43

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