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I'm currently evaluating the possibility to use Stack Overflow for Teams for my department. As an active user of Stack Overflow in past I think it's a great idea and Q&A format would probably work in most of teams setups.

What I'm concerned about is:

Everyone knows that for IT-questions, Google is a frontend page for Stack Overflow that serves as a backend

.. because let's be honest, search is far from perfect on Stack Overflow. If I google the question, usually first 1..3 links land me to a correct answer on Stack Overflow. Often enough that's even the very first link.

Therefore I'd like to know if it will be possible to use different search engine for Stack Overflow Teams.

Why I ask this: we will evaluate the Stack Overflow Teams and if that goes well - good chances are we want to use it for all IT departments in different Business Units / Countries. that would be >2000 IT persons actively using it so the knowledge base will grow rapidly and we need good search.

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    Using alternate search engines for Stack Overflow-hosted Teams is likely to be challenging... But for the sort of eventual scale you're talking about, you'd probably want to go with self- or cloud-hosted Enterprise anyway. Do you have an existing solution for intranet search?
    – Shog9
    Commented May 8, 2018 at 15:40
  • @Shog9 Yes.. Atlassian and Salesforce solutions. We know how "good" it is. That's why together with using something better for documentation / knowledge sharing, we want to improve search first and foremost. I get it, google is that good for search because it's their business - so I don't expect SO to integrate google into it (and that would not fit for enterprise anyways)
    – Alma Do
    Commented May 8, 2018 at 15:42
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    So... My guess is that the integrated site search is gonna be about as good as you can get for just searching Teams... But a real win here would be integration with other enterprise systems, to where you wouldn't need to know the info was on SO before searching. I'd be interested to hear what others are using for enterprise search these days; I know Google Search Appliance is going the way of the dodo, but I'd expect there are some hefty cloud based services now that wouldn't even break a sweat at indexing something like this along with other internal docs.
    – Shog9
    Commented May 8, 2018 at 16:53
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    I agree that it could be an interesting research on what others are using and if that leads to some ideas - I hope there will be some improvements for SO Teams on this account
    – Alma Do
    Commented May 9, 2018 at 8:32
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    Google used to have indexing servers you could mount in your own racks to keep stuff private but still benefit from googles algorithms.. but that was ages ago. They had golden cases if I remember correctly. Commented May 9, 2018 at 12:29
  • The search engine in SO is not that bad. You mention Atlassian, Confuence has a search tools also but for me it's not better than SO (expecially when you have a huge amount of docs). For me it's not SO which should include a new search engine but existing search engine, at entreprise level (like Confluence), that should search in SO Teams. Commented May 9, 2018 at 12:47
  • I believe that a big part of Stack Overflow search engine failure is that it doesn't index code. So whenever you use the formatting syntaxes with backticks or with four spaces, searching for it becomes impossible. In practice, this often affects multi-line error messages as well. So it may not be because ElasticSearch is bad, but more about how it is configured.
    – Cœur
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 1:27
  • @Cœur it does index code! We probably could improve how we use that field however.
    – Haney Staff
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 2:10

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It likely won't ever be possible to use a different search engine for Stack Overflow for Teams, but I want to re-assure you that we have a renewed interest in improving our internal search. In fact, we launched an experiment last week and have another launching in the next few days. It's very important to us to improve our search so that Teams is as useful as possible to everybody. I won't make any concrete promises, but I'll tell you that we will be iterating (and testing) a ton on search over the next few weeks and months.

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    Please note that I am in China where Google is blocked, so I've been forced to use the Stack Overflow internal search for years, and in the end I often find myself going to data.stackexchange.com to perform simple searchs that Elastic Search current configuration can't handle.
    – Cœur
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 5:22
  • @Cœur it's how we're doing the code block analysis. See this search by comparison
    – Haney Staff
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 14:54
  • Thank you, it's interesting but that's not an obvious search query to prefix an enum value with a method name. In comparison, if I go on Apple documentation website and I simply query for UIToolbarPositionAny I get perfectly fine results. No need to be in context.
    – Cœur
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 15:18
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    Right. I think we'll run an experiment to analyze the code with an English tokenizer (separate words by things like . and : etc.) - I bet that'll be quite successful!
    – Haney Staff
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 15:21
  • To be clear: I fully agree that current code search is too rigid; we will fix it.
    – Haney Staff
    Commented May 10, 2018 at 15:26
  • Ok, from my learning: first, there is no possibility to use custom search engines in SO Teams and it is not planned; second - there is some work in progress for it. Thus for us it would mean - when this work is done, we could try it, but for now it won't solve our problems, so we won't evaluate it further currently. Thanks for honest answer!
    – Alma Do
    Commented May 11, 2018 at 8:04
  • @AlmaDo for a larger org, consider Enterprise: stackoverflow.com/enterprise
    – Haney Staff
    Commented May 11, 2018 at 17:05
  • @Haney, another small searching issue is that looking for reachability permissions gives 1,925 results, but if you make a light mistake like reachbility permissions, then it yields 0 results at all. The same light mistake on Google will give 704 results. I know that this issue is harder to fix.
    – Cœur
    Commented May 17, 2018 at 7:17
  • Could you all please talk about this in your blog more than you do about "welcoming" issues? This is the kind of stuff we want to hear about!
    – jpmc26
    Commented Jul 14, 2018 at 1:01

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