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In Is it appropriate to edit and properly format a really bad question? it is said that edits to obviously bad questions are discouraged.

Then I stumbled over this (to my mind really bad) question: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/50018928/how-to-put-partcles-between-two-positions-formula

An edit was made to put the linked picture into the post. To my mind this question is off-topic and very low quality, so the edit is just a waste of time and blocking the review queue. Still, it got approved, as it is a minor improvement, but the question is still unsalvageable to my mind.

Should this be reported somehow?

Picture of the post if the question gets deleted:

Picture of question in question

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    I do not know how often moderators talk to reviewers that are not being caught by audits but still doing a questionable job. These two should have done better, IMO. The question is going to be deleted eventually, so not lasting harm was done.
    – yivi
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:16
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    Generally these should be rejected because edits by anyone (other than the close voters) to a closed post will push into the reopen queue where reviewers will have to waste time on it. Luckily the edit went through before closure
    – Suraj Rao
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:17
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    @yivi I like to avoid name calling thats why I did not mention the reviewers.
    – Kami Kaze
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:22
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    You've linked the post and by doing that named the editor... The remaining information was one click away. And real problem are the reviewers IMO. Good reviewers catch these cases before they become a problem.
    – yivi
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:24
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    @AndréKool no... but in such scenarios, it is highly likely the suggested edit gets approved after the post is closed.
    – Suraj Rao
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:28
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    @AndréKool yes...and once reviewers have voted to leave closed, any subsequent improvements made by OP will not send it to the reopen queue again
    – Suraj Rao
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:31
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    Not sure this one is the best of examples. It looks like a good faith edit as the OP can't themselves inline the image and while the end result is still poor - at least the OP may stand a chance of adding additional information related to the image based on any comments. It's probably overall a futile exercise and not worth the time of doing it but it's done now and it strikes me as the editor thought it might help and so did the reviewers. Was it worth doing - most likely not. Is it a persistent problem that's harmful - no.
    – Jon Clements Mod
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:43
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    Re-activating excessively bad content is pretty harmful. I pinged the reviewers. Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 10:52
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    The reviewers have a pretty high Approve/Reject ratio. We really need to instruct our reviewers better. Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 11:11
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    @KamiKaze I;ve found that a 5:1 or higher Approve/Reject ratio is actually a pretty good indicator. Not proof, but enough ground for closer inspection. I've caught my share of robo-reviewers that way. Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 11:27
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    @gnat this getting through triage in the first place is a much bigger offense, than anything discussed here......
    – Kami Kaze
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 11:31
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    @KamiKaze dreaded Triage guidance, business as usual. "Requires Editing = can be improved with edits by author", when will this madness stop. By author, gimme a f#cking break
    – gnat
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 11:37
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    I was one of the editors. The edit included the image in the question, which before I couldn't see. It showed even more the poor quality of the question and I downvoted and voted to close the question. IMO those are the appropriate tools. I am not aware/didn't know that approving edits change the questions status, which all the negative comments are about; I believe that shouldn't. It is an (unwanted?) side-effect of the edit process. Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 13:24
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    @PaulOgilvie, if a suggested edit doesn't push the question quality beyond the "closabe" threshold, it's a kinda pointless edit to begin with. What is sometime called "polishing a turd", as in you can polish it, but will remain a "turd". It's better to reject those suggestions, so people can learn to focus on salvageable posts to begin with.
    – yivi
    Commented Apr 26, 2018 at 11:12
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    ...when will this madness stop... @gnat At approximately 02:46:20Z April 25th, 2018. (Though I imagine it's still going to take time for folks to realize the guidance has changed.)
    – BSMP
    Commented Apr 26, 2018 at 14:15

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I wouldn't report this. The edit itself is fine (it does make a minor improvement). I doubt a mod flag here would be sustained.

I might be inclined to reject the edit, but I can't fault the reviewers either. It's not a bad edit. The reason I would reject the edit is that it doesn't actually fix the question. I would reject it as No Improvement so that a close vote wouldn't put this into the Reopen queue.

Reserve mod flags for bad edits and approvals for

  1. A reviewer selects Edit in a review queue and fails to address the reason it was there (editing typically removes it from the queue). I had a LQP flag recently where a new(2k) reviewer edited a link-only answer and only added bolding to the link. Mods didn't seem to like that edit either.
  2. The reviewers were also asleep at the wheel. These should be clearly bad edits and not simply edits like this that are attempts to make improvement
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    There is a reason for rejecting the edit; posting images instead of formatted code is strongly discouraged. Editing a post to make this error more visible is no good and a wrong edit IMHO.
    – Mp0int
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 13:00
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    @FallenAngel Remember, the question was if the OP should flag this. And I already said I would have rejected it myself for not making the question answerable
    – Machavity Mod
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 13:02
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    @FallenAngel The image is of a hand drawn graph, not a screenshot of code. It's true we don't want screenshots of text and even this image should have had alt text (the edit is pointless for anyone who can't see the image) describing it but the image itself is an actual graphic, not inaccessible text.
    – BSMP
    Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 14:26
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    I rejected the edit because no freehand circles Commented Apr 25, 2018 at 20:01
  • @BSMP ah now I see the picture (:
    – Mp0int
    Commented Apr 26, 2018 at 8:37

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