I'm referring to this meta question.
Is it fair to say there are two "modes" when these types of questions are asked? The first being a bad path (xy problem or lack of awareness of options, etc.) and the second being an exception path (valid reason for doing something unconventional). The top answer to this question aligns with the "unconventional path", most of the other answers assume the asker is on the "bad path".
Do we need/want some way to flag rare/unconventional answers as such?
I've asked two questions that I think fall into this "square wheels" category, one Python related and one Git related. The former has "don't do that" as the top-voted answer, and the unconventional answer (provided eventually by me after more research) getting the second highest votes. The latter was asked two days ago and went to -6 votes within 10 minutes. It is currently at 0 votes (I assume downvoters changed their votes after the exchange in the comments), but does not have any answers currently. I'm open to critique/suggestions for how to ask the question better, but that isn't the point of this meta question. Citing the questions is more about transparency regarding what is driving this question.
As a question asker, it would be fantastic to leverage the experts on Stack Overflow to help me understand the implications of going down an exception path. From my experience, I'd guess that these exceptions arise from unique situations where there are additional costs of the "best practice" solutions. Cases where there is no easy choice, but rather a choice between less-bad answers. Maybe it won't work at all. Maybe it is possible (and even considered reasonable) under specific circumstances. Maybe there are specific, but not obvious, items to be aware of that can be pointed out. All possibilities well suited to the Stack Overflow format.
I understand one of the concerns is that these answers could lead to beginners thinking the exception is not that exceptional. But I hope the goal is to help beginners and experts alike, which is where I think some sort of identifier would help.
Brainstorming
- I guess a tag would be easiest (
unconventional
). A problem here is that the asker probably doesn't know if it is a valid tag until it is answered. It could also be abused by beginners. EDIT: I don't think this is good solution, but it seems like it fits easily within what Stack Overflow already provides. - It seems like a tag or flag on specific answers would be a clearer indication, and allow a beginner answer to be differentiated from an expert (buyer beware) answer. I am not sure if this is possible, though. EDIT: I think an enhancement along these lines would be fantastic.
- Maybe you need both? A way for the asker to say that they understand the space of the question well enough to know the question is unusual (to avoid the quick downvotes) and a way to differentiate the answers. EDIT: I think the second bullet provides the most value.
It would be fantastic, if I knew I was asking about an exception, to be able to search only the answers flagged as such.
i++
in C. The question itself was naïvely stated (and obviously by a beginner) but there was an awesome answer. ... Which clearly went above and beyond OP's understanding 😀 Trying desperately to locate it, as I think it's an example of what you are referring to.beginners
,fledgling experts
andexperts
? Doesn't everyone need to go through an in-between stage to become an expert, where they question the norms and need to evaluate the exceptions? "Don't do that" is perfectly appropriate for the beginner, but not terribly helpful for someone trying to expand past that stage. And I'm hard pressed to to think of an example that can't be described (dismissed?) as the xy-problem.