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You need 5 close votes, 3 downvotes and 3 delete votes to delete a regular question. Spam etc. can of course be handled with moderator attention.

However there are many cases where the question is based on completely unrealistic expectations, usually in the style of "I want to build a space ship, can anyone help me?". Now naivety is not worthy of moderator attention, but it's inefficient to explain in comments that you simply have no possibility of achieving this no matter how much you want to, and then gather up the required votes for deletion.

Of course there are review queues and other mechanisms that should handle this eventually and at least in theory, but if an obvious unanswerable question is getting the active attention of a few high rep users it would be more efficient to somehow speed the process up.

Instead of a dupehammer style heavy duty tool, perhaps a combined downvote, close and a "future" delete that would go off when/if the question is closed. Currently you may downvote and close vote, but you'd have to come back for the delete explicitly.

Naturally the user gets an explanation that he's asking for something completely unrealistic. The current "too broad" close vote is quite varying on what constitutes as "too broad".


So with this combo of Close & Delete 3 high rep+ users and 2 high rep users would be able to close and delete a question.

It would be hard to abuse, resistant to false positives as it would still require 5 trusted users in total and 3 of them with higher reps, and it would make getting rid of true garbage faster.

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    You may want to take a look at the SO Close Vote Reviewers chatroom, where you can work on getting exceptionally bad questions closed / deleted faster.
    – Cerbrus
    Mar 23, 2018 at 8:46
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    @Cerbrus ah, thank you. My idea of a streamlined close & delete would allow 3 high rep users to vote close & delete, then it would require only 2 close votes more to "activate" those deletes.
    – Kayaman
    Mar 23, 2018 at 8:49
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    I do not know if this is the solution, but anything that goes into the direction of getting rid of garbage faster looks interesting to me. The perennial solution can't be just "let's have another election".
    – yivi
    Mar 23, 2018 at 9:29
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    Might be obvious to you but other people have opinions that may differ Mar 23, 2018 at 9:38
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    @LightnessRacesinOrbit and that's why it's not a dupehammer style single user power tool. It would be pretty much like the current situation, except when you've voted to close you don't need to come back to vote to delete afterwards. If there are differing opinions and it doesn't get closed, the deletes wouldn't affect anything.
    – Kayaman
    Mar 23, 2018 at 9:45
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    Yup - it's a pain to have to keep track of hopelessly-bad questions, waiting for -3 rep, then waiting for close, before the deserved and inevitable delv can be applied. Mar 23, 2018 at 9:57
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    Even more related, possibly even a duplicate: Pre-register delete vote. Mar 23, 2018 at 10:02
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    We already have problems with certain "trusted" users regularly coordinating downvotes + delete votes on answers that don't at all warrant speedy deletion. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with this.
    – BoltClock
    Mar 23, 2018 at 10:42
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    I guess I'm looking at this from a naive perspective, not understanding all the complicated interactions (and shall we say drama) that goes on deeper in SO. Maybe I need to pop into the chatrooms more often.
    – Kayaman
    Mar 23, 2018 at 10:45
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    Its a good idea nonetheless. I mean yes it can be potentially abused, but that is no different today as BoltClock says. People will remain people with varying interpretations of right and wrong, whether they have a future delete vote function or not. Maybe a secondary problem is more that certain delete voters are a little too free to do as they please, that shouldn't get in the way of progress.
    – Gimby
    Mar 23, 2018 at 14:33
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    Related: Answering questions when no attempt has been made (slightly different problem, but same proposed solution)
    – jpp
    Mar 24, 2018 at 11:41
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    I'm not sure how useful this request is. For me, deleting posts isn't the problem, it's closing posts faster. We have the dupe-hammer which is a great start, but I'd like to see more feature(s) like that.
    – DavidG
    Mar 24, 2018 at 12:13
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    closing the question is enough. Deleting it will be done by roomba. close+delete is useful when question has accepted answer. Yes SOCVR has a lot of nice tools (and will be nicer in 6 or 8 weeks), but a close+delete would certainly be handy, only for those "no roomba" cases. Mar 24, 2018 at 12:34
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    Getting a question deleted really fast will only help making the perceived unfriendlyness of the site worse. I agree with the others that just closing it quickly is enough, and then there’s nothing wrong if it sits like that for a few days before it’s automatically deleted.
    – poke
    Mar 24, 2018 at 12:37

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However there are many cases where the question is based on completely unrealistic expectations, usually in the style of "I want to build a space ship, can anyone help me?".

Often this kind of questions come from new users who are unaware what is on topic and what is off topic. One way to reduce such garbage questions is to prevent asking them. If they are not asked - no need to delete them. One way to achieve this could be to somehow force users to take a tour from where they could better know what is off topic.

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    I am not sure how helpful the tour actually is for new users, especially inexperienced new users with little industry and work place experience/knowledge for the necessary context the tour is embedded. Nothing stops someone from just scrolling to the end without reading anything so the next fix is a kind of a literacy test. The only fix to poor performance that seems to work is learning to get better through a combination of training/education and learning from mistakes and feedback. Mar 24, 2018 at 12:23
  • "the next fix is a kind of a literacy test" - agree, I was also thinking of some kind of quiz after taking a tour.
    – ks1322
    Mar 24, 2018 at 12:32
  • I was actually being a bit cynical about the literacy test thing pointing out that a tour or a literacy test or all the other standard external tools used to fix what is really an internal problem with lack of experience and training just do not work very well. Mar 24, 2018 at 12:37
  • this isn't really answering the original question. And this "tour" idea has been discussed already. It's been decided that it's better to let everyone answer. That is IMHO one of the strenghts of SO. Mar 24, 2018 at 12:53
  • For the reference, here is discussion of "tour" idea: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/271804/72178.
    – ks1322
    Mar 24, 2018 at 13:21
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    A forced tour seems unlikely to do much. There's too much information in the help center for anyone to read all the way through when they just want an answer to their question and users are already presented with some text many obviously don't read or pay attention to. A better idea is to present them with a question wizard or template. Mar 24, 2018 at 14:53
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One issue to consider with this proposal, is that it dramatically reduces the chance of salvaging the question. Closed question can generally be reopened by 3K+ users, if they were closed in error, or have been improved. With the close+delete feature, after the question was closed, it would be instantly deleted, and only 10K+ users would have access to it to vote to reopen if needed.

So if it is implemented, there would have to be some safeguards, e.g. have only a tiny number of them each day, to have some pipeline/review task for examining the deleted questions, to allow 3K users to see/reopen the question for a limited amount of time, or similar.

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    This question was just bumped, and no one has commented on your answer yet, so obligatory "First." The goal of this proposal is to facilitate speedy deletion of questions that already have a negligible chance of being salvaged in the first place. The only problem lies in users of this feature misidentifying salvageable content as unsalvageable.
    – BoltClock
    Apr 24, 2018 at 11:47
  • @BoltClock: Yes, but that problem is important IMO, judging by the erroneous closes/deletions we have seen over time...
    – user000001
    Apr 24, 2018 at 17:14
  • Indeed. The proposal as a whole doesn't sit right with me either for the same reason, as I acknowledged in my comment on the question.
    – BoltClock
    Apr 24, 2018 at 17:16

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