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I was reviewing Suggested Edits today and came across a good 10 reviews in a row with tag only edits from a single user

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Now at first I thought, okay nothing suspicious. But I quickly realised this guy was just re-tagging a bunch of questions with the tag. I rejected some of his edits, but what else am I supposed to do about this?

I read before that SO very strongly discourages sub 2k Users going on a tag-only edit spree to farm rep, but what is a reviewer supposed to do in this case? Just reject all of them or skip and alert a moderator, or something else entirely?

According to the User's Edit History, he suggested 123 tag-only edits in the last 3 hours. How do we deal with this?

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    Flagging it might be the way to go in this case...
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 7:52
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    @Cerbrus I looked at some of those edits and approved them. Questions are specifically related to C++ Builder and tag was appropriately added in this case.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:03
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    @DalijaPrasnikar: The problem is that the user appears to be specifically searching for questions that might need that tag, and adding it. Even where the tag isn't really needed.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:08
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    @DalijaPrasnikar: So, he made a couple of acceptable edits. That doesn't necessarily mean all his edits are good.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:15
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    @Cerbrus stackoverflow.com/users/5513684/steven-carlson?tab=activity I looked at this user's edit history and he suggested a good hundred edits about very mostly adding this tag only. o_O
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:17
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    Exactly. I doubt all of them are good edits. This is a typical case of a user adding a tag to any question that's returned from kind of search.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:18
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    Mass adding a tag to questions isn't something a <2K user should do, way to many edit suggestions.
    – Thaillie
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:21
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    @Cerbrus I went through about 30 of his edits and could not find single one that was wrong. Maybe he is serial editor, but not in bad way. That should be taken into account when dealing with this case.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:21
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    @DalijaPrasnikar I think the main problem is that such trivial (even if decent) edits clutter up the review queue tremendously.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:22
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    Also, further reviewing this users reputation history shows a pattern thats looks an awful lot like serial/sockpuppet upvoting.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 8:45
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    @Magisch I know what you mean. Still far better than being swamped by UIButton tag edits... Bottom line is those tag edits looked individually are good. Whether or not users should be allowed to do such serial edits that is another question.
    – Dalija Prasnikar Mod
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 9:05
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    Honestly, who cares if it adds a bunch of edits to the queue? When's the last time you saw the Suggested Edits queue even into the triple digits? It's one thing if you're concerned about the quality or necessity of these edits, or driving questions to the front page, but suggested edit reviews do not appear to be any sort of exhausted resource. Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 10:10
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    Maybe leave him some form of notice not to do this. I (also <2k) have also done some tag-editing in the past, even postet some meta question about it, simply because I thought I was helping (though I always tried to have a look at the whole post). Until now I wasn't aware what you should not be doing this.
    – T3 H40
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 22:24
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    Serial editing is bad, in general. More on "flooding" the review queue
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 22:45
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    He is doing nothing wrong. Let him contribute in the way that he wants to. And he is most certainly contributing. Don't want to review? Skip. Also, independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/…
    – rjdown
    Commented Jan 12, 2016 at 22:59

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I rejected some of his edits, but what else am I supposed to do about this?

Continue like that. Evaluate each edit in isolation. Approve if the edit is good, improve if it can be improved, reject if it's detrimental to the post and reject and edit if you feel that the post needs another kind of work.

I read before that SO very strongly discourages sub 2k Users going on a tag-only edit spree to farm rep, but what is a reviewer supposed to do in this case?

Why are you presuming he's "farm(ing) rep"? For him he may think that he's making Stack Overflow a better place, improving those posts. Never presume malice.

he suggested 123 tag-only edits in the last 3 hours. How do we deal with this?

Read the first paragraph.


Now, lets debunk some theories, that always get thrown around in these cases.

Suggested edits can at most earn you 1,000 reputation, after that you will not be awarded anymore. In fact, I "earned 622 reputation from suggested edits" according to the /reputation page. There's no damage that a user could do after reaching 1k rep.

Second, though there's a belief that the suggested edit review queue gets "clogged", I've never seen such things happening, at all. Nor any data backing this up, so I collected some data to counter this.

According to the all times reputation leagues, there are 49,031 users that have more than 2k reputation (being able to review suggested edits). That allows a top of 20*49031=980620 individual reviews. Given that any review needs at least a minimum of 3 votes and a maximum of 5 votes to get approved/rejected, so between 196-326 thousands suggested edits can reach consensus. In the last 180 days, the peak of suggested edits have been 2,598, so even if we say that we only count with the 2% of users that can review suggested edits (~1000 users), we still have enough users to deal with 4000 suggested edits/day, all of them controversial. I believe that the suggested edits review queue would not "clog" itself with many suggested edits.

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    One thing to add: You can also contact the edit suggester by leaving a ping on a post where his edit was approved.
    – Zizouz212
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 0:19
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    "Second, though there's a belief that the suggested edit review queue gets \"clogged\"", well it doesn't, but that's because filling it up makes the brown number at the top of the page appear. So it wastes reviewer time nonetheless.
    – bjb568
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 13:35
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    Your logic is flawed. Just because we have the user to review the edits doesn't mean they are going to. By your logic and from the number of 3K+ users we should be able to to fully review about 130,000 question per day in the close vote queue. Of course this does not happen so only a small percentage of the people who can review do review. Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 13:44
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    @NathanOliver no, I'm not presuming all of the would review, since even if it's only 1 out 50, the queue can be dealt with.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 13:58
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    @bjb568 somehow I'm not in the least worried about roboreviewers wasting time
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:01
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    The Suggested Edits queue rarely goes beyond a 100, so there's no "clogging of the queue" in any way. Presumably this is because people tend to review an edit on a post where they are anyway, and because of the easy access provided by the orange-brown box in the top bar.
    – Adriaan
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:17
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    @Braiam Not everybody who reviews edits are roboreviewing…
    – bjb568
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 15:10
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    "There's no damage that a user could do after reaching 1k rep." In or out of context, this is sadly quite wrong. I think what you meant to say is that users are unlikely to cause trouble by rep-farming after hitting 1k from edits, but even then it might take a while for them to realize they're no longer getting rep for accepted edits. Suggesters can certainly continue causing trouble even if they don't receive rep; even 2k editors can and do! Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 6:34
  • Just to be fair, I don't review suggested edits that much (only around 1k network wide), but just because the current edits are a somewhat worthwhile way to spend my time reviewing doesn't mean at all that this would still hold true with the new rules you propose. Allowing such edits will only result in more robo-reviewing and less reviewers overall for absolutely minimal improvements. Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 6:45
  • @DavidMulder I'm not proposing "new" rules, that have always been the expected behavior of reviewers when reviewing, since the introduction of the improve/reject and edit and the reject reasons.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 12:17
  • @NathanOliver but, the still need the rubber stamping of peers. So, if there's any problem they are causing we have other kind of problems.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 12:20
  • @DavidMulder read meta.stackexchange.com/q/238333/213575
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 12:36
  • @Braiam In that case a moderator wouldn't have contacted the user in question that this isn't acceptabel behaviour. An edit should fix all visible issues in a post, ABSOLUTELY when under 2k and when someone is doing mass edits the reviewers should not be the ones to judge whether for every post whether there was anything else to fix or not. In that case we could straight up put all posts in the suggested edit queue. Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 13:21
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    @DavidMulder you are now assuming what the moderator message was, and you actually have no idea why the moderator send its message, so starting a discussion on that topic would be utterly non-constructible because neither you or I know what the message was or wasn't .
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 13:35
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    @DavidMulder "... because some users don't like that... and keep *whine* *whine* *whine*, making me crazy" there, the complete message ;)
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 14, 2016 at 17:45
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Ping the editor with a comment reply on one of their approved suggestions. Remind them to be more diligent and fix all aspects of a post before posting a suggestion. If they are fixing tags, they should also make sure the rest of the post is in good shape.

If that fails, flag one of the posts for moderator intervention and explain the situation. There isn't really anything we normal user can do beyond informing people. Besides, resolving tricky issues like this is one of the questions we asked our moderator candidates. You can read some of the newly elected moderators' responses to this very issue (josilber, Ed Cottrell, Madara Uchiha).

Aside: IMO, 123 tag-only edits in last 3 hours is a lot of editing. Like flooding the review queue rate of editing.

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The level of tolls of this site that are so quick to complain about things is amazing. When there are issues with a member how about contacting them instead of having a secret meeting about them? Since this was created I have had numerous down-votes on my questions all out of spite from some less than helpful user. That is not right and the individuals that downvoted should have their accounts suspended.

Now that is out of my system. There are a number of members that have commented very respectfully and expressed constructive thoughts on this post. To those users I thank you and I wish there were more like you in the SO universe.

After this C++ Builder tagging issue came up the other night, one moderator did send me a message asking for me to not do 'tag only' reviews, I replied thanking them for their advice and backed off from tag only.

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    If you mind, reading my question clearly should tell you that I was asking about what should be done. To be honest, I would personally think a tag edit spree such as yours merits a warning (as you recieved) or a temporary edit privilege revoke. But (and this is important) I agree that downvoting your posts in retaliation is in poor taste. I do however disagree that these users should be suspended and I further disagree with your namecalling.
    – Magisch
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:24
  • @Magisch - You were not one that I was directing that to and I apologize if you thought that. You had constructive questions and comments. You were not trolling, nor downvoting out of spite. Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:26
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    "Since this was created I have had numerous down-votes on my questions all out of spite from some jerk-off." wait 24hours for the voting script to reversal the clearly unfair downvotes. If they aren't all resolved raise a moderator flag and explain to them how this meta post caused some serial voting against you. Read more at What can I do about getting a sudden flood of revenge downvotes?
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:28
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    @ryanyuyu there's not that many downvotes, so guess the serial voting script does not kick in, due to them probably being from different users.
    – Adriaan
    Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 14:30
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    Uncomfortably related: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/297264/… Commented Jan 13, 2016 at 15:22
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    "When there are issues with a member how about contacting them instead of having a secret meeting about them? " - Its not a secret meeting about you but how to handle something in general using an example. I came here because of a similar query which had nothing to do with you. On a side note downvoting your questions because of this is just idiotic. Commented May 12, 2016 at 10:02

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