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We have many answers about what to do about no-effort “Plz send codez” questions, but invariably we get enablers justifying doing these peoples' work for them with remarks like “we were all beginners once” or “I'm just trying to help”.

Scattered in the discussions are reasons why answering these types of questions harms, not helps, the site, but I could find no one simple guideline or explanation about why that is and why one shouldn't answer such questions. Is there a canonical guideline or answer I could point to that explains the problems with answering these kinds of questions?

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    Relevant answer, in otherwise (not entirely) unrelated Why is Stack Overflow so negative of late?. At least some of the answers in there come from disappointed users who just want "ur useful codez", thanks-in-advance included.
    – Jongware
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 18:29
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    "Plz send codez" is not directly an issue. The issue is a vast majority of the time, the problem is that (1) the question is a duplicate or is so broad that it has multiple duplicates, and/or (2) the question is very broad that pages of code and explanation could be written, and/or (3) the question is unclear as to what the actual problem is, and/or (4) the question isn't actually a question, it is just "I want to make a chat app, what should I do". Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 18:29
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    This idea that you're gonna motivate folks to not answer by telling them it's "bad for the site" is... wrong-headed. It's like telling people to recycle for the sake of sea turtles; it appeals to a small subset of people who mostly weren't doing it anyway. If the Q&A is never useful to anyone else, then the author is making poor use of their time and most will eventually burn out - so encourage people to write reusable answers for their own sake.
    – Shog9
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 18:32
  • @psubsee2003: all four of your categories get answered. It's part of the problem, not part of the solution.
    – Jongware
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 18:32
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    @usr2564301 wasn't saying it wasn't a problem. But point was the asking for code isn't the issue. It is the type of questions that usually get asked that are the problem Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 18:44
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    @Shog9 We tell question authors that their bad questions are bad for the site. It doesn't always have the desirable effect (because many of them just don't care), but that doesn't mean that we don't try, or discourage people from attempting to convince people asking bad questions to try to improve. We also don't just say that people asking bad questions will just burn out and stop after a while, and recognize that we do need to attempt to deal with the problem in some way (even if it's not a war we can ever win completely). Why is it any different for answerers?
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 19:39
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    No one's arguing here that bad answers are bad for the site, @Servy. The argument is that any answers to bad questions are bad for the site. Even useful answers. Maybe especially useful answers. This is based on an old theory that a significant number of questions are generated by either the same small group of people (unlikely) or by people who learn to ask exclusively by reading existing obscure questions that help no one and mimic their style (implausible). The truth is, these questions are no different than the millions that plagued past generations going all the way back to USENET.
    – Shog9
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 19:47
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    When I joined Stack Overflow, I was phasing out my activity on another site that suffered from this same problem. Worse than the problem itself were roving gangs of vigilantes who spent their time getting into long, stupid arguments on every lousy question - all the while wearing the fig-leaf of "doing it for the good of the site". Stack Overflow offered alternatives: downvoting, editing, closing. Less noise, more results. So why return to the same noisy techniques that didn't save any previous community? Because it feels like you're doing something. But it's as counterproductive as always
    – Shog9
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 19:55
  • @Shog9 We define bad questions as questions that either can't, or are extremely unlikely to, attract useful answers. Therefore, saying that answers to a bad question are almost certainly bad is true by definition. If the question is attracting useful answers, either it is a very rare exception, or the question isn't actually a bad question. One issue here is that so many people equate a useful answer with a correct answer. Just because an answer is correct doesn't mean that it's useful.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:00
  • There are two reasons a question can be bad, either it can't be answered (i.e. unclear), or answers posted to it wouldn't be useful (i.e. off topic). In the first case an answer can't be useful because, by definition, the question is unanswerable. For the latter case, the answers to those types of questions aren't useful, which is why those types of questions aren't allowed. So the point here is not that "useful answers aren't useful", but rather the statement that people sharing their opinions, or positing correct answers to off topic questions, etc., isn't useful.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:00
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    @Shog9 To your last point, that something I can most certainly agree with. People going around just telling people not to post answers to X types of questions, and getting into lengthy comment arguments about it, is not a particularly effective way of actually solving this problem. By all means, we should try to figure out better ways of dealing with the problem that are less noisy. I just have a problem saying that people shouldn't care about answers that aren't useful being posted; talking about more effective ways for people to address answers that aren't useful besides comments is great.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:03
  • That's a lazy way to define a bad answer, @Servy. It absolves anyone from having to actually read the answer, know anything about the topic, or make a specific argument for why there's a problem with the post - all you need do is pick out some problem with the question and you've gained license to damn every answer posted without so much as a cursory scan. And that's crap. If bad questions are those that attract bad answers, then a question which attracts a good answer cannot be a bad question - so by your definition, only a strong argument for why an answer is useless can damn a question.
    – Shog9
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:05
  • @Shog9 If someone posts the question "what color should I paint my bikeshed" then you don't need to read the answers to know whether or not they're going to be a useful post (on SO). Not that I'm advocating voting on answers without reading them (because sometimes reading the answer allows you to realize that you really did miss something in the question, and that the question wasn't a bad question). But you would have a specific argument for why there's a problem with the post. It would be that it's off topic (in my example), or that it's sharing one person's opinion, etc.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:17
  • Like I've said, if you see an answer that you think is a good answer, then odds are the question isn't a bad question. There are rare exceptions, but it's generally true. Of course it's also possible that information that could otherwise be useful ceases to be useful because of problems with a question. For example, if you post a useful answer to the wrong question (say, because the answerer misunderstood it) then the answer isn't useful, even if it could have been useful if posted to a different question.
    – Servy
    Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 20:17
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    @Shog9 and not only is answering such questions likely to help only the question asker, it's likely that only the question asker is ever likely to upvote said answer. One should answer in such a way to make others upvote it as useful to them. Commented Mar 14, 2018 at 23:36

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