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There's a current burnination happening for the .

Should we burninate the [htc] tag?

There's currently 141 questions with both the and .

For Android developers, troubleshooting particular devices is relevant and helpful to have on the site. It's something that will continually pop up over time, with specific devices not behaving the way most devices do. The device tag does not need to be added, but can easily be included in the title to assist search results.

Can we please not remove these in bulk from the site, and instead just remove the ?

Examples

This type of question is only relevant to Android development. Being able to debug on devices is a necessary part of Android development.
Android: ADB Driver for HTC One X

This may not seem like a relevant question, but the OP wants to determine the technology behind this effect to be able to program it.
Name of technique behind 3D effects like HTC one dimension plus

Another trouble shooting device specific issue.
HTC Desire X USB ADB doesnt find it

There's nothing wrong with this question.
Crash log on HTC Flyer

or this.
app crashes using HTC ONE but works fine on all other devices

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  • Related (on an old question that was obviously off-topic but appeared to be useful to many people): meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/355109/… Aug 26, 2017 at 5:14
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    I don't think that we should necessarily delete all of the closed questions - "closed" doesn't necessarily mean "useless." Aug 26, 2017 at 5:23
  • @EJoshuaS yes - but they are currently being closed so they can be deleted and many of them don't need to be closed at all - they're doing no harm. They were on topic when they were posted and still are.
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 5:27
  • It seems like most of the questions I've seen closed really were off topic, though (with some exceptions). I think that a bigger problem is that not everything that deserves to be closed also deserves to be deleted, so it might be worth coming up with questions that are off-topic but should get historical locks. Aug 26, 2017 at 5:29
  • Do you happen to have an example where questions are closed (deleted is maybe more difficult) where you feel this shouldn't be done so the HTC burninators can reflect on their action and adjust accordingly? Or is your question more a preemption and should be read as burnination advice?
    – rene
    Aug 26, 2017 at 6:14
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    As a first step I updated the burnination progress post: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/355241/578411
    – rene
    Aug 26, 2017 at 6:17
  • @rene I can get some examples, would that be better?
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 8:19
  • @YvetteColomb it would certainly help others to make better judgement calls. At least that works for me.
    – rene
    Aug 26, 2017 at 8:30
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    This is just a special case of the more general problem of overzealous deletion. Just because a question is off-topic is not, in itself, a reason to delete it. You have to also evaluate whether there is any useful content that would be lost as part of the deletion. If people have not been doing this when casting delete votes, shame on them. Aug 26, 2017 at 11:11
  • @CodyGray exactly - the issue with these questions being closed with the tag included in the burn process is they will be deleted. Also I can see clearly that what the community views as ontopic for Android and what Android devs view as ontopic are two different things. There's many device specific bugs that devs need to troubleshoot, there's continuous changes with each sdk revision and sometimes code isn't even necessary - just a problem description and the sdk versions or the logcat - if it's device specific. But only someone who understands Android can differentiate these. to be cont..
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 11:18
  • .../ as with npe - there's some devices that will throw seemingly extraneous npes. And people will close them as dupes - but the code will need some work around that drives devs crazy searching the internet for and I've tried to address this on meta - my question was downvoted - and deleted by Community User. I know I'm just one small needle in the haystack, but I'm trying to help sort out some issues on the site - so we really can differentiate between what's useful and what's not. It's a huge issue I know. And restricting reviews and votes to tag experience will only hinder and clog .../
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 11:20
  • ..../ review queues. But it would be good if we had some place - on meta where we can discuss specific tags - without the wider community jumping in - let the people who work in the tag in real life discuss it.
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 11:21
  • I agree there needs to be a better way in general to handle tagging-related issues: burnination, merges, synonyms, renaming, cleanups, etc. But I don't know what that is, so Meta's the best we've got. I'm sort of surprised to hear you making this argument now. When I've bellyached in the past about mass Meta-led burninations, I thought I remembered you being firmly on the other side. Oh well, maybe my memory is failing. At any rate, I don't know that the problem is the Android community vs. the world. I think it's just in the phrasing of those questions---they seem broad. Aug 26, 2017 at 11:40
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    @EJoshuaS it's not our job to just dispose of content that only has one or two upvotes. If it's on topic - it's ontopic. Just because it has a tag on it that is being burned - that doesn't automatically decide it should be deleted.
    – user3956566
    Aug 26, 2017 at 14:07
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    Frankly, it sounds like some tag which permits HTC to be indicated for android questions would be useful. Perhaps, as has been suggested on the burniation question, something like [htc-android].
    – Makyen Mod
    Aug 26, 2017 at 16:13

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I agree with this - I think that we need to be careful about which ones of these we delete. Actually, most of the questions I've seen in should be retagged, not deleted, with the exception of a few egregiously bad questions that "slipped through the cracks" earlier.

Even some close-worthy questions shouldn't be deleted if there's evidence that they're useful (because we don't want to lose content) - my preference would be to historical lock useful but OT questions to prevent VLQ answers or people using them as evidence that they can ask similar questions.

I'm concerned that if we just delete all of these in bulk that some valuable content will be lost, so I'd be in favor of going through the closed questions and picking out some useful ones to historical lock and save before deleting all of them.

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