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Today I've been experiencing a serial upvote (probably by a person who urgently wants to see me joining the close vote crew):

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I well know that these upvotes will be cleaned up within the next 30 hours, and I'll lose the close voting privilege gained through these upvotes.

I thought: OK, let's do the best of it and cast some close votes on posts.

But what will happen to my close votes, when I'm going to lose that privilege? Will they be automatically retracted?

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    Privileges aren't taken away from you retroactively, so no. The close votes you cast while you have close-vote privileges will still count as close votes.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 19:57
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    @CodyGray Interesting, so I won't loose the close voting privilege when the serial voting is reversed? If so please write that as an answer, such I can accept. (I know this is an edge case, can't judge the usefulness of my question right now)
    – user0042
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:00
  • From the title, this sounds like it would be a duplicate of this question, but that one actually goes off in a different direction. It's actually closer to a duplicate of this question, even though that talks about upvotes on posts, whereas you're talking about close votes. Exact same idea.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:00
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    Um, I didn't say that. You would still lose the close vote privilege if your reputation dropped below the threshold. But any votes you cast while you had the privilege would still have had their effect and won't be retracted.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:00
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    @CodyGray close votes are turned into close flags when the user loses the close vote privilege IIRC
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:28
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    @Tiny Is that documented somewhere?
    – user0042
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:29
  • @user0042 Yeah, in a comment thread on a post somewhere. Can't remember which post, or anything else remotely useful for that matter.
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:52
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    @Tiny Are you saying that if I have 3001 rep, cast a close vote, and then go down to 2998 rep, the close vote I cast will be retroactively converted into a flag? I don't think that's true. If so, it would be very weird. Although I can't prove it, I'm pretty sure that the close votes I cast when I had close voting privileges will remain close votes. What will change is what happens from then forward. At 2998 rep, I won't be able to cast any more close votes; all I can do is raise flags.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:56
  • @CodyGray IIRC close votes and close flags are the same thing internally. The only difference is the rep of the caster. I might be making all of this up though.
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:57
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    @Tiny I think you are getting it confused with flags being identical to close votes after you get close vote privileges. So, if you have 3001 rep, and you go through the flag dialog, you'll still end up in the exact same close dialog and cast a vote to close. I'm 99% confident that flags for non-privileged users are "RecommendClose" internally, whereas votes are votes to close.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 21:01
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    @TinyGiant No, close votes and close flags aren't the same thing internally, rather, if you try to cast a close flag when you have the close vote privilege, it casts a close vote instead of a flag.
    – Servy
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 21:29
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    @Servy is that documented somewhere?
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 23:09
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    @TinyGiant I don't think it's documented anywhere, but I can confirm - when I try to cast a close flag as a mod, a super-duper mod-hammer close vote is cast instead, with no flag ever having existed according to the logs. That is an edge case though (because of the hammer), but I think it's the same principle.
    – wizzwizz4
    Commented Aug 26, 2017 at 16:18
  • @wizzwizz that doesn't really confirm anything. Unless you can see how those things are handled internally. I recall when I was making a suggestion with regards to changing the behavior of something around the close votes I was told that internally close votes are actually close flags. If I'm misremembering, that's fine but so far I've just been told that I'm wrong without any evidence to show that either way is correct.
    – user4639281
    Commented Aug 26, 2017 at 16:44
  • Give 3000 points worth of bounty, wait for the serial upvote revert, which will not be able to affect you much anymore because you can't go below 1 Reputation, then cancel the bounties and... oh wait, nevermind...
    – Cœur
    Commented Aug 27, 2017 at 1:20

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Losing privileges is slightly easier than you may realize. For example, once you get the privilege to downvote at 125 rep, your first use of that will likely take you out of the privilege area to use it again.

That doesn't mean that the action is invalidated. Any actions taken at a specific privilege level will remain, even if you're not at a sufficient reputation level to use it again.

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    "your first use of that will likely take you out of the privilege area to use it again." I'm not that stoopid, sure loosing rep at downvoting answers will get you there. The question isn't if I'll lose the privilege, but what happens to the actions while I held it.
    – user0042
    Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 20:13
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    @user0042 I think Makoto's point is, if you lose the downvoting privilege by downvoting, your downvotes remain. Similarly, if you lose the close vote privilege (by losing rep in whatever way), your close votes remain. Commented Aug 25, 2017 at 22:22
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    ... and here I thought trying to downvote with 125 rep causes an infinite loop of applying the downvote, losing the privilege, reverting the vote and gaining the privilege again, which ultimately ends up crashing the internet. Commented Aug 26, 2017 at 11:33
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    @Dukeling It would crash Stack Overflow, which would give the developers enough time to quickly reset the system before all support on servers everywhere stopped due to lack of Stack Overflow. Luckily, the Stack Overflow sysadmins keep a copy of their vital information off Stack Overflow.
    – wizzwizz4
    Commented Aug 26, 2017 at 16:20
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    Another sort-of common way is when people bounty away their reputation.
    – Adriaan
    Commented Aug 26, 2017 at 19:13

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