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For some days now I have a back and forth on the comments with the questioner of this post: MakeValid not working for a single model object which is a continuation (under my suggestion) of this post's Equivalent of PostGIS ST_MakeValid in Django GEOS back and forth.

I do believe that I made my answer clear enough in both cases but I see that the questioner still asks for the same things over and over.

Have I done something wrong with my answers?
Am I not clear enough and need to change something (and what)?
Do I need to be more patient and it is my problem?
Is he a help vampire and should I leave him alone?


08/23/2017: After the user received knowledge for this post from Christian Dean, he accepted both answers.

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    I can smell blood in the water... Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:04
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    Is it mine @MartinJames should I worry? Should I get a band-aid?? Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:05
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    Only if the vamp has drunk too much. Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:07
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    If you feel that there might be a help-vampire nearby... well...12 out of 10 times... there is a help-vampire nearby.
    – I haz kode
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:15
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    see meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/258206/what-is-a-help-vampire
    – rene
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:20
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    and... we gave the suspected help vampire a gold badge...
    – Jeutnarg
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 15:21
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    @Jeutnarg It should have been silver!! They don't like silver!! Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 15:29
  • I actually used to have a custom Chrome script to hide comments from two specific users so I wasn't baited. Highly recommended.
    – user736893
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:01
  • @JohnMoutafis that's werewolves. The vamps are unaffected by silver. Recipie for vamps is wooden stake through heart, fire or beheading. Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 18:15
  • @MartinJames depends on the folklore: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… (see on weaknesses) Commented Aug 24, 2017 at 8:29
  • @JohnMoutafis OK, I'll check with the were pack in the club on Friday night. I would ask the vamp couple who run the bar, but they're on vacation ATM. Commented Aug 24, 2017 at 13:20
  • @MartinJames But it is a "dead" season now (subzero pun and I know it :P ) Commented Aug 24, 2017 at 14:51

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Stop answering this person.

Just walk away. You've provided more than enough information for their question.

The worst part is this comment that they left:

Please see if you can help me here as well. [link redacted]

You need to stop engaging with this person.

You've done everything right in answering their question as posed. The rest is more up to them than anything else.

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    Introduce them to Mr. Pointy. Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:10
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    @MartinJames: He's a sharp fella, I feel like his impact is felt once he comes in the room, y'know.
    – Makoto
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:11
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    @Makoto not much fun to hang around with though - he's far too wooden.
    – Jon Clements Mod
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:33
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    @JonClements Nobody's mentioning it specifically, but we all have a stake in solving this problem... Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 16:50
  • @Makoto Thanks for your (moral) help! :) Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 17:25
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    Please flag comments like that. Of all the pointless comments that get flagged, these are some of the most worthy. Spamming links to your question all over the place is not okay.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 4:36
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    @MartinJames Mr. Pointy?
    – user1675891
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 9:26
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    @AndyJ buffy.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Pointy Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 9:31
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    @MartinJames, next time you introduce something new like Mr. Pointy ... do provide a reference as well instead of confusing others.
    – Rahul
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 9:34
  • Had a similar exchange here. After several follow-up questions (which are now deleted so it looks like I'm talking to myself) I repeatedly mentioned that figuring out the details is part of the learning-process. Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 9:51
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    @Rahul: That would defeat the purpose of a pop culture reference, which is to delight those who happen to get it.
    – BoltClock Mod
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 14:20
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    "next time you make an inside joke, provide a reference with it"... You'd think that people here (of all places) would appreciate the value of Googling something yourself lol Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 15:53
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This is not directed at OP, but SO users in general.

You are here for one of two reasons; to get help or to give help.

It numbs my mind, the culture here of vilifying the people trying to get help.

"Help Vampire"? Is there an acceptable amount of help someone should ask for? Are they monsters for not understanding something as quickly or easily as you?

Sometimes I wish SO would do away with points and badges in hopes to quell the elitist philosophy that has grown so strong here.

As someone here to give help, is it your responsibility to help improve the overall quality of the site? Yes, of course. But your primary responsibility is to HELP INDIVIDUALS. You don't know what language they speak natively, what their experience or background is.

bleh.

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    "Help vampire" is a colloquialism that has a very specific meaning. It doesn't just mean someone seeking help.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:15
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    Surely you would agree that there is a difference between giving help and giving unpaid contract work. We're not trying to be mean here. We're only explaining that a user does not have the privilege to come here and ask us to essentially do their job for them. You would be well served reading the question, what the OP was truly asking of the asker here, and what a help vampire really is. They're more common than you realize, and the only thing we can kill them with is lots and lots of fire. Or Mr. Pointy.
    – Makoto
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:34
  • Sure, there is abuse from some seekers, but on a daily basis I see way more abuse from "helpers". This probably wasn't the place, but there really is no place and it frustrates me to no end.
    – user736893
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:37
  • Maybe you should strike up your own Meta SO discussion on this matter. You may find yourself very enlightened afterwards.
    – Makoto
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:44
  • I doubt it, I already know I'm in the nonvocal minority.
    – user736893
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:45
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    Well, what I'm saying is that your remarks would be (only barely) better in a separate SO topic than here as this isn't answering the premise. It's more of a venting session. If you had an actual talking point to ask about, then that'd be fantastic.
    – Makoto
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 16:46
  • What kind of "abuse"? are you flagging said "abuse"?
    – Kevin B
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 18:01
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    consider giving a read to What is Stack Overflow’s goal? "You have it backwards, I think..."
    – gnat
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 19:09
  • That's an interesting read, thanks.
    – user736893
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 19:14
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    No, neither of those two reasons is why I am here.
    – user663031
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 19:42
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    You are aware that being obligated to do work for no wages is called 'slavery', and that this is illegal in many jurisdictions? Commented Aug 24, 2017 at 15:27
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    'You don't know what...their experience or background is' sure, we do - they are professional and/or enthusiast programmers. It is generaly accepted that this excludes beginners whose knowledge is insufficient to comprehend answers without continual hand-holding. Commented Aug 24, 2017 at 15:33

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