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I just received an unsolicited email from Stack Overflow Careers that listed a job offer and indicated I would have liked it. However the compensation package is half of what I had set up in my job preferences, so why am I even receiving this?

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    Not really an answer, but see Control the types of email you receive via our new Email Settings feature
    – user6655984
    Commented Aug 6, 2017 at 22:09
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    Was it in your hometown? I received a similar inappropriate email for a job in my home town. But junior, low pay, and not what I do. Honest matching is difficult, much easier to mismarket email and eat up SO's good reputation for temporary metrics gains.
    – Paul
    Commented Aug 6, 2017 at 22:34
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    I don't even receive any emails. Employers also don't reply to my applications. It seems I'm a ghost.
    – Ram
    Commented Aug 6, 2017 at 22:41
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    @undefined Same feeling. Commented Aug 6, 2017 at 23:37
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    @undefined so you suggest he changes his name to null?
    – user5940189
    Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 15:31
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    @undefined Username checks out. Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 15:36
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    @GeorgeRappel I use my full real name in official letters. There are 2 fields: "Display name" and "Full name" which has this caption: "How you appear to employers and other users when you share your Developer Story." I think the problem is my nationality.
    – Ram
    Commented Aug 7, 2017 at 16:44
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    I also feel like "We really like this job for you" is oddly phrased. "We really think you'll like this job" is probably better, but will (per this question) probably often be wrong ;).
    – Mark Wragg
    Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 10:07
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    @bono Are they offering a better package?
    – podiluska
    Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 10:45
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    @BobJarvis ha :) "I have no experience with $language, BUT I'm happy to learn as I go." That usually opens all kinds of doors ... exit doors ... Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 15:00
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    @undefined The if (username !== "undefined") writeJobInvitationTo(username); bug will be fixed in 6-8 weeks.
    – Marco13
    Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 15:36
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    @MeghanArmes - back in the dark ages (1987) I was a contractor, and went to an interview with one of our body-slammers. We got there and he pulled "my" resume' and started telling the client manager about how I was an expert on VMS and knew all about C on VMS and etc and blah and...I said, "Let me see that". I pulled the resume' out of his hand, looked at it, and saw a work of fiction. I quietly said, "I'm afraid there's been some mistake. I have no experience on VMS but I'm a quick study". Recruiter was furious - but I.GOT.THE.GIG! Client said, "You were the only one who was honest". :-) Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 15:39
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    @BobJarvis I love it! That's amazing! Kudos to you for having a backbone, and kudos to the client for valuing your honesty. Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 15:42
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    @MarkWragg Maybe it's a regional thing? I've heard and read, "I like X for you" before. Not more often than your suggestion, but it's a thing.
    – BSMP
    Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 20:55
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    @undefined, I can relate with you
    – Bonifacio
    Commented Aug 9, 2017 at 11:14

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Thanks for reporting this. First, as Michelle said, you can update your email preferences here (this particular email is sent from the "Recommended Jobs" bucket) or you can also opt-out with one click from the footer of the email you received.

I just wanted to let you know that we've discussed internally how to improve this email. We're thinking about considering salary a stronger signal. As as result we have decided to only recommend jobs that:

  1. Pay what you're asking on your match preferences or more (if you have entered a number there)
  2. The seniorities on the job overlap on the ones on your match preferences (if you have entered a minimum and/or maximum there)

Thanks for helping us build a better product!

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    The challenge, I think, is I have a sort of sliding scale thing - for a job I can commute to in about the same amount of time, I want a similar salary. But if I have to commute further, that goes up. And if I have to relocate, that's another jump (that's sometimes offset by cost of living). But even for the most awesome job in the world - I'll rarely be able to take a pay cut, unless it was a real 'change your life' sort of thing (and included a significant reduction in cost of living too). I'm not sure how you could factor this in to a job-search though.
    – Sobrique
    Commented Aug 8, 2017 at 15:06
  • This is not status-completed. I have never expressed an interest in receiving job spam emails from you guys and just got one. Every last radio button on the 'Job Match Preferences' for my account is unchecked. If you want me to think you're going the Facebook route with a million incessant stupid policy changes to jump through constantly until I just walk away, you are doing a good job.
    – reisio
    Commented Aug 12, 2017 at 2:40
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    @reisio the reason why I marked this status-completed is because the OP reported a bug (the recommended job was outside what he set up in his matching preferences) that is now resolved. In your case, if you don't want to ever receive emails from the /jobs team, you should opt out of the Recommended Jobs email bucket if you haven't done so. We're putting serious effort into doing email right. Thanks for your feedback!
    – g3rv4
    Commented Aug 12, 2017 at 15:42
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    You should not in the first place send me unsolicited spam suggesting my current situation is lousy and requires replacement. You shouldn't send me spam of any kind. Especially because I never asked you to. Opt out? Out? You want me to opt out of something I never asked for, rather than opting in to something? We'll see how you guys do at opting out of having made an enemy for life.
    – reisio
    Commented Aug 13, 2017 at 2:04
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    @reisio that is unrelated to the OP's question. Feel free to write a new question and we'll be happy to talk about our reasoning and how we're trying to target our emails in a way that's useful for our users. It doesn't mean we get it right every time, but I'm happy to share details on how we're doing that
    – g3rv4
    Commented Aug 14, 2017 at 16:34
  • If your reasoning is that you made a mistake in emailing me an offensive unsolicited email and are fixing your end so it won't happen again, then kudos to you. Otherwise, the only "reasoning" for making people opt out of things is being greedy and evil. Why would I care about talking to you about how you are those things—it is in this case already apparent.
    – reisio
    Commented Aug 14, 2017 at 17:17
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    If you received an offensive email, please send it my way (my email address is on my profile) and I'll be happy to look into that. If you don't choose "not interested in jobs" or don't opt out of the "Recommended Jobs" bucket, I can almost guarantee you will receive new emails. The bug the OP reported was that the job was good but paying less than what he set up on his matching preferences, and that's the bug I fixed.
    – g3rv4
    Commented Aug 14, 2017 at 17:32
  • Enemy for life, then. Thanks for making the choice straightforward. (When you walk up to someone and, unprompted, without solicitation, not knowing the state of their contentedness say to them that they could do better about anything they're doing, you are being offensive.)
    – reisio
    Commented Aug 16, 2017 at 14:15
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I have an idea how you could improve these emails. Stop sending them.

And yes I know I can turn them off for myself, but I can't turn them off for my staff who are now all getting offers to poach them in their company emails!!!!!!

Seems like it might be time to stop using SO entirely.

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    There is an option in "Job match preferences" (under profile settings) where you can say you are "Not interested in jobs". Checking that option blocks all emails about job offers. Maybe your staff wants to leave, or maybe they forgot to change the setting. Basically, it isn't SO's fault, it is not changing that one checkbox in settings. You can also block specific emails (or filter them) as said in the accepted answer Commented Aug 14, 2017 at 8:26
  • No, they are tired of them too, but they don't have time to go looking for settings on every app they use to stop spammy messages. They also don't want to leave, they're very happy thank you very much, but getting constant emails about other jobs while they're working for us is just bad for everybody. Surely you all can see that? I imagine the 6 people who voted me down are recruitment agents.
    – jonhobbs
    Commented Jun 28, 2018 at 11:23

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