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My account was recently banned from asking more Stack Overflow question on grounds of having too many "zero-voted" questions. I'm not sure how to go about getting more upvotes, however. I went through my history and while there are questions which could've benefited from more research or more focus, a good majority of them were specific and asked after I exhausted other resources.

It seems to me that the zero-votes are less about the quality of the question and more about Stack Overflow users simply not caring to up vote. Moreover, the more niche a question gets, the more likely this effect occurs. If this is true, then I have no idea how to combat it, as it would be a systematic problem of Stack Overflow, not the user.

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    This is a good question. Users are encouraged to only ask a new question as a last resort, but that often means, if a user is good at doing their own research, the only questions they ever ask are very niche questions which few people are likely to encounter (hence the lack of widely-available information). Commented Jul 6, 2017 at 21:27
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    Of OP's 9 most-recent 0-vote questions, 8 have less than 100 views; most have less than 50. I think that should be taken into account in the question ban. Commented Jul 6, 2017 at 21:31
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    If everyone followed that principal of only asking a question as a last resort, that'd be the only kind of question we have and they'd likely get more votes.
    – Kevin B
    Commented Jul 6, 2017 at 21:38
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    Looks like you've got some votes that have moved you out of the ban...
    – Jon Clements Mod
    Commented Jul 6, 2017 at 21:50
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    Yes. however, I think that this is an issue that may be more prevalent than expected. It might be worth discussing further.
    – jeanluc
    Commented Jul 6, 2017 at 21:58
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    on grounds of having too many "zero-voted" questions Are you sure? A couple of your questions with a score of zero do have votes, they just had the same number of up votes and down votes.
    – BSMP
    Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 2:57
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    I have noticed people who aggressively answer all questions in an unfrequented tag - even going so far as to go into the package and fix a bug - but refuses to upvote any questions at all. Seems rather unfair to me. Any question that takes a significant amount of your time to answer ought to get an upvote from you I would think. People like that don't realize they are actually hurting the tag that they love.
    – Mike Wise
    Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 4:31
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    @MikeWise this was just discussed recently - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/351716/…. Converting so-so question into up-vote worthy one is much harder than answering... Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 5:50
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    Asking a question that doesn't get down votes is hard enough, let alone getting upvotes. I'm surprised there is a ban for this.
    – Suragch
    Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 10:53
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    Maybe a C++ or a JavaScript user doesn't realize that, but OPs and answerers that deal with very low-popularity tags get 10, maybe 20 views per question. And people simple don't upvote, as if it was paid. That being said, I agree with Nathan's comment, the number of views should be taken into account. Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 11:21
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    This is the basic design flaw of stack overflow: it's not a site about answering questions, it's a collection of (sometimes) interesting trivia about code, which is reasonably searchable, but usually only by those who already know the answers. The restrictions on asking the question you actually care about means the site is basically locking out new users, which is a problem for the long-term viability of the model. Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 19:01
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    @ThingyWotsit Ah, you understand perfectly then. Why, indeed, would they search? Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 19:27
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    Also, 'restrictions on asking the question you actually care about means the site is basically locking out new users' - there is nothing stopping the new users answering questions. Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 19:28
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    @JonKiparsky well, I tend to search when I don't know the answers, (though I use Google: it's a better search tool than the SO search box). Commented Jul 7, 2017 at 19:31
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    Well, @jrh did you ignored 11 warnings the system gave you?
    – Braiam
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 2:08

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I don't know where you got the idea that you were banned because of zero-scored posts.

You were warned at least 11 times when posting a question that your previous questions hadn't been well-received. Several of your past questions were downvoted, at least one of them heavily - this hurts. Zero-scored questions do not contribute to a ban, but they don't move you away from it either - if you're consistently posting negatively-scored questions more often than positively-scored ones, you're probably gonna end up banned eventually.

Hence the warnings. Please don't ignore them next time!

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    Me: "Wow, the system is awful, we have to fix it!" --> "Oh, the system is working perfectly!". Thanks for the clarification. Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 1:10
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    *reads comments* I'm sure it wasn't like that... *reads answer* Yep, it wasn't like that.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 1:34
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    BTW Shog, don't moderators have access to this data? Jon comment threw me off at first because it looked like he did checkout and didn't find anything that explains the ban.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 1:36
  • Gotta remember to look for it.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 1:49
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    "Zero-scored questions do not contribute to a ban" -- I don't quite follow, wasn't this due to zero vote questions? Or did something in the system change?
    – jrh
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 2:12
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    @jrh that's a guess, not the horse mouth. Read Martijn comment.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 2:15
  • @Braiam Yep, I know. I'm wondering if Shog can provide more clarification than Martin.
    – jrh
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 2:18
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    Well... I could provide more details, but I'd say Martijn made that crystal clear already.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 4:16
  • @Shog9 Fair enough, I'd recommend editing the help center for Q and A bans to make this more clear. I'd prefer to see something less vague than the "or" in "... if they have a significant number of heavily down-voted, zero-voted, or deleted posts."
    – jrh
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 11:34
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    @jrh my go-to reference has been this post on which Shog's answer said basically the same thing as this one, just less clearly (because it wasn't concerning zero-score posts). I suspect that this falls a bit under the "let's keep specific ban details somewhat fuzzy to prevent gaming the system". Then again I vaguely remember seeing a specific formula to how deleted/closed/downvoted posts matter in something...although that might have been for a "well-received" status for a badge. Can't remember. Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 11:39
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    @Braiam One of the first things I do is check a user's history when they raise a meta post about bans whether from disputed audits or system imposed. And yes, mods do have that information, and I could see they've been warned 11 times about low quality contributions. To me, it looked liked the user was asking a genuine question that's useful and not necessarily user specific and throwing in "You've been warned 11 times already" would not be useful and bias things.
    – Jon Clements Mod
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 11:42
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    @Jon I'm afraid OP's question starting with 'My account was recently banned from asking more Stack Overflow question on grounds of having too many "zero-voted" questions.' with no remark about those 11 warnings (or existing poo posts at least) tripped me up too:) Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 11:46
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    Yes, I've been getting warnings ever since a low voted question a few years ago, but even though I tried to keep my questions higher quality since then, no one was up voting them, and thus the warning never went away. My questions still stands then - how do you prevent zero voted questions?
    – jeanluc
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 19:17
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    @Shog9 when I clicked the link on the ban which showed me the justification for it, one of the reasons was too many "zero-voted questions", and since I didn't get any negatively voted questions since the warnings started appearing, I assumed it was because of that. Unfortunately I can't screenshot it anymore, since the ban was lifted.
    – jeanluc
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 19:20
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    Should have linked to this, @jeanluc: stackoverflow.com/help/question-bans - the "zero-voted" bit is a red herring; I'll revise it when I'm back at a computer.
    – Shog9
    Commented Jul 8, 2017 at 20:30

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