Is it an attempt to specify that both males and females are allowed to apply, as if that wasn't the case everywhere already? I'm mostly seeing this for positions in Germany.
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German is one of those languages in which nouns have a gender, so many job titles implicitly have a gender attached to them. Whether that historically means anything or not in regard to actual biological genders is a different discussion. A job title of "Softwareentwickler" is grammatically male; to make it clear that women are equally invited to apply, this is either written as "Softwareentwickler/-in", or by adding an "(m/f)". Whether or not this is always useful for all job titles, e.g. "developer", is yet another discussion to be had, but that's the prevalent politically-correct climate in Germany (and I suppose other countries) at the moment.
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18Ah, of course. I reacted because this would be a very politically incorrect thing to do in Sweden (where nouns are not gendered). I would be really hesitant about working somewhere where the fact that women are allowed to apply has to be explicitly stated in the job description. Feb 10, 2017 at 10:06
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16@Filip ha, that's funny that something that is the height of inclusiveness in one country reads like "... and we now even allow women!" in another culture. We probably won't be able to eliminate this cultural artifact completely with German job ads - there might even be legal repercussions if you omit this in Germany. It could at least be a beneficial factor in a discrimination suit, if not grounds in itself. That should not apply to English language ads for obvious reasons - but weirder things have happened in German courts...– PekkaFeb 10, 2017 at 10:08
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3@Pekka웃 and it's only a 70km boat ride between the two countries! We practically share a border! Feb 10, 2017 at 10:16
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3So, in Germany, gender is still a binary concept? This doesn't seem especially "progressive" or "politically correct" to me.– Cody Gray ModFeb 10, 2017 at 10:35
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14@Cody The German language has and had for a long time three grammatical genders! You were saying…? :-P– deceze ModFeb 10, 2017 at 10:36
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4I don't mean grammatical gender, of course. My understanding from college linguistics courses is that this has nothing to do historically with actual biological genders. It certainly doesn't seem to in the German language, as Mark Twain famously satirized to the English-speaking world.– Cody Gray ModFeb 10, 2017 at 10:38
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6@Cody Of course I was teasing… But again, the issue is that grammatical and biological gender is somewhat linked in German, more so than in English. If you wanted to include all LGBTQ+ designations, you'd probably need to invent 5+ more grammatical genders; or you'd have to redo the entire system to decouple biological and grammatical gender. And that while people are already getting riled up that explicitly having to state two genders is already cumbersome. Just because it's expressed in writing one way doesn't mean people aren't already acting progressively. It's not the same as the US.– deceze ModFeb 10, 2017 at 10:44
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5And the girl is neuter. I did not enjoy having to learn that :) Feb 10, 2017 at 10:47
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35From now on, I'm not a programmer. I'm a 'twickler.– user1228Feb 10, 2017 at 15:12
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3They do the same in Spanish by using the @ symbol to signify the 'o' for masculine and 'a' for feminine. Feb 10, 2017 at 19:32
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3Well, developer isn't a great example Spanish because it can be either gender even though it is a masculine noun . But using it as an example desarrollador@ where the last letter would be o or a to denote gender. Feb 10, 2017 at 19:41
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2I think empleado is a better example. "Looking for employee". "Se busca emplead@" or "worker" = tradajador@ Feb 10, 2017 at 20:03
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3@Will You've caused me to update my profile for the first time in years! stackoverflow.com/users/476/deceze?tab=profile– deceze ModFeb 10, 2017 at 20:37
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2In Germany, is more than politically correct. It is by law stablished.– LeDYoMFeb 10, 2017 at 20:40
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(which indicates they recognize their developer may not be male). God I want to beautiful Sweden.