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This tag has been burninated. Please do not recreate it. If you need advice on which tag to use, see the answer below. If you see this tag reappearing, it may need to be blacklisted.


Current description

USE is a keyword or statement used in several technologies. When using this tag, always pair it with another tag like SQL or Perl. Don't use this tag for expressing the "use" of something.

Tagged questions: 304.

It is impossible to this as the only tag on a question and still understand what the question is about and what technology is being used. This is a meta tag and should be removed.

The use keyword does not mean the same thing between different languages.

  • In SQL it selects which database should be used for any following queries
  • In Elixir it executes a __using__ macro defined in the specified module
  • In Perl it imports some semantics into the current package (this may have a similar use case to the Elixir usage)
  • In PHP it is used to:
    • namespace your functions instead of using the full namespace
    • include a Trait within a class
    • inherit variables from the parent scope inside a closure
  • In FoxPro without arguments closes, with proper arguments it opens: a table and its associated index files, a SQL view, or any project resources.
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    But if we burninate it how would you tag Use Case Diagram?
    – rene
    Commented Jan 24, 2017 at 15:18
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    Might want to read this: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/324070/… and specifically the 4 criteria for a burnination request. Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 16:44
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    @MatthieuM. I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to express with your comment. But I think it fails the first criteria there. It is ambiguous. From the link on that page commonly referred to as "meta tags" "If the tag can't work as the only tag on a question, it's probably a meta-tag". This tag cannot work on its own. Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 16:58
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    It has to meet more than one of the criteria. A tag being "ambiguous" is not a sufficient reason for burnination. I'm not saying that I'm against this burnination request, but I don't think you've presented sufficient evidence to make the case yet. It concerns me that this actually a keyword or special identifier in programming-related technologies. It may be that we need to figure out a way to disambiguate it instead.
    – Cody Gray Mod
    Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 17:17
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    @JustinWood: My point is that a burnination should address all 4 points and present a strategy for dealing with the affected questions. Even if we agree to remove the tag, it's not just about removing it: it's also about checking if the affected questions should be retagged with more specific tags. For example, maybe it often comes paired with "socks" and a "use-socks" tag should be created because in this language "use xxx socks" is a pattern that's worth tagging. Commented Jan 25, 2017 at 18:05
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    @CodyGray Yes. There is SVG use element, Perl use function, PHP use statement, etc... And they are all being used in the questions of the tag.
    – EMBarbosa
    Commented Jan 26, 2017 at 11:42
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    @CodyGray Dunno you, but Shog said that "a good tag should meet all 4 criteria" This one, according you, fails at least one. I say it fails at least three: doesn't add anything meaningful to the post, isn't on topic on the site, doesn't mean the same in all context.
    – Braiam
    Commented Jan 26, 2017 at 12:59
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    The wiki tag description states it is supposed to be "paired" with another tag. That implies that the "correct" tags would be ones which include the additional information: For example: [sql-use], [elixir-use], [perl-use], [php-use], [foxpro-use], [svg-use], [cobol-use], etc. I'm not arguing for the [use] of any of these tags. Each one would need to be considered on its own merits.
    – Makyen Mod
    Commented Jan 27, 2017 at 0:08
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    Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +67/-4. No answers.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Sep 17, 2018 at 16:16
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    Moderator Note Please don't start burninating the tag before the community has a chance to agree or disagree.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Sep 17, 2018 at 16:16
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    Will we [use] Trogdor for this burnination (if approved)? Commented Sep 17, 2018 at 20:27
  • The problem with the 'meta tag' thing, is you'd assume the ambiguous uses would have enough in common that there was at least some concept of what the tag meant. Ie a concept about 'case/switch' might exist thats common to multiple languages but "use" is a bit like "the". its a very vague verb.
    – Shayne
    Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 7:10
  • @Shayne the litmus test for meta tags is "can this be the only tag on the question?" The use tag fails this test. Or do you have other criteria to identify meta tags?
    – Braiam
    Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 12:43
  • Stats at the end of featuring: Q: +116/-5. A (saying yes) +42/-1. The community has voted in favour of the burnination.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 17:48

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I agree with this burnination request. Answering the 4 questions for burnination:

  1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous?

    No. It does not describe the contents of the question to which it is applied, as we do not know about what "use" the OP is talking about. If the use tag is the only one, then we would have no idea about the question. The tag is also ambiguous, from a comment by Makyen:

    The wiki tag description states it is supposed to be "paired" with another tag. That implies that the "correct" tags would be ones which include the additional information: For example: [sql-use], [elixir-use], [perl-use], [php-use], [foxpro-use], [svg-use], [cobol-use], etc. I'm not arguing for the [use] of any of these tags. Each one would need to be considered on its own merits.

    Pairing a tag with another implies that it's being used as a meta tag.

  2. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

    No. "use" is a very broad tag and most of its uses are not on-topic for the site. Some deleted questions are related to "using of code", "use of things to create code", etc, which are all either too broad, or primarily opinion based.

    Additionally related to the point about "use" being a keyword, there are many other keywords, which are not tags. Unless the keyword is used to denote an important programming concept in a given language (like lambda), it is not useful to create a separate tag for each keyword.

  3. Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

    No. The tag is superfluous on most of the questions. As mentioned earlier, it is required for the tag to be paired with another tag, and therefore it is not useful on its own.

  4. Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

    No. It does not have the same meaning in all common contexts. There are 3 different meanings for the word use in common context, 1. As a programming keyword, 2. to "take, hold, or deploy" and 3. "the action of using something".

I agree with Cody's comment stating that 'A tag being "ambiguous" is not a sufficient reason for burnination', however this tag has a "No" answer for all the four criteria, and therefore it should be burninated.

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  • Just a quibble on your point 3. "...and therefore it is not useful on its own" is not the question being asked. It seems that in some posts it does add useful information, by narrowing down which specific feature of the library/database/whatever is referred to. Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 22:15
  • @SteveBennett, I meant to say, "... and does not add any meaningful information to the post on its own". I was looking at the general cases, where it did seem redundant. Like PHP (which was the top related tag with some 100 posts tagged), where it had to go with [namespaces], or with [svg] (the second top related tag), where there were no posts that were tagged just [use] and not [svg], but related to [svg]. I guess in a few cases, it might help to narrow down, but in most of the cases, it wasn't. Those few cases need to be found out, and documented in the other community wiki answer.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 22:25
  • One of them which I immediately found was the [use] [case] diagrams, where it added information, and was quite clear that the user was referring to UML use case diagrams.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Sep 18, 2018 at 22:26
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has been burninated.

trogdor

Thanks to everyone who participated.

Observations/Retag Guidance:

Progress:

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