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I have read this answer; but that is about a question that was downvoted 5 times before; not what I have on my mind.

But I am coming from a similar thought: I think I have seen more than once some "revenge" downvotes on a question of mine: there is a question, maybe not exactly great; but also not bad (no downvotes when asked; or maybe one down, one up). Some answers come in; I accept something. Fine.

And then, out of the blue sky, months or years later, that question gets a downvote (like here). I rarely see that on answers, but most often on questions, leading to that hard feeling that somebody just wants to "punish" me for something I said somewhere... and goes the cheapest way - by downvoting a question for free.

And I am simply wondering: would it make sense to make that at least one bit more expensive? Or is that just something to live with?

On "why I feel it is revenge" - very simple: That ONE question downvote is the exception. But I have seen two or three times this year that 3 to 5 of my questions go -2 within 10 minutes. But of course, that is "not enough of a pattern" when asking a moderator to look into.

And then: I accepted answers. I simply hate the idea that I delete such a question of mine, just to keep up that positive question track record.

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    How do you know it's a revenge downvote and not Tim Post's cat?
    – Glorfindel
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 9:36
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    @Glorfindel How do you know it's Tim Post's cat and not OP himself (which appears to be a cat as well)?
    – Maroun
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 9:42
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    As said; it is guessing. And I have experienced serial downvoting already; so I am just sensitive to that. One of the consequences is that I already self-censor myself and avoid criticizing people beyond "downvote reputation level". But thing is: I try to give comments on most of my downvotes or close requests. And then see my update to the question.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 9:43
  • @MarounMaroun Maybe because he understands that I cant downvote my content myself.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 9:43
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    You know, that "And if you really liked what I am doing; feel free to upvote ;-)" bit in your profile description just might rub some people the wrong way and give them a reason to do the exact opposite... Just saying.
    – Gimby
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:15
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    Revenge Downvotes shouldn't be expensive, they should be reverted. Since it is hardly possible to detect actual revenge downvotes, that can't be realized. And downvoting a question due to its quality, shouldn't cost anything.
    – Tom
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:28
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    @Gimby Both happens. But the thing is: my first serial downvoting came in because I dared to tell somebody: your answer doesnt make any sense. That was enough to turn that person made. Luckily, that time, that was a person not knowing the system. He engaged in a serial downvote, which was detected; and in the end uncovered a schema by that person using a sock puppet ... and not liking people telling him that his bogus answers were c**p. But it seems that other people are smarter. So my takeaway from your comment is: dont put comments anymore? Just silently downvote and move on?
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:30
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    There is no such thing as a "a serial downvote". "Serial downvoting", on the other hand, exists.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:33
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    I, for my opinion, would be really happy to get some comments on the downvoted questions. So that I can improve them to make them more usefull. It don't has to be more expensive. If everyone who downvotes is forced to leave a comment it would be much more helpfull I think. Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 12:57
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    @theoretisch I think there are tons and tons of discussions around the topic of "enforced" comments. And I think the community long ago decided that they dont want that. But well, in such scenarios, I think they really would make sense.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 12:58
  • @GhostCat Yes I know. It has some disadvantages too but as you said, in such scenarios it would help. Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:05
  • @GhostCat Yes, but I think it should be possible to set the author of the special comments to unknown. So that for example only the mods have the possibility to see the real Author in case that the comment is inappropriate. Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:13
  • @theoretisch And then people would write down kinda empty statements. You see, questions currently at zero most likely expose one or the other weakness.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:21
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    Targeted voting sucks quite heavily, nothing quite corrupts the system as badly. It can auto-detect a lot of it but it aims to be as accurate as possible and users have learned how to bypass it. Your profile does not stand up well to close scrutiny. Normalizing this so that other SO users don't feel compelled to correct voting anomalies by themselves does have to start somewhere. Don't do it. Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 15:41
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    Personally, I downvote bad posts whenever I happen to see them. I don't care if it's an old post. I stumble across old content all the time in the course of searching for things.
    – canon
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 18:35

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Please don't.

There are so many bad questions out there. I'm not interested in being "punished" for downvoting low quality questions. Votes are a quality control mechanism.

Only a small minority of downvotes on questions are revenge downvotes. Don't "punish" the majority for those.

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    I get you. Still it sucks to see my "question record" go down by 5 or 10 over half a year. So, the answer is: I just downvote other stuff; and stop giving comments. Hurra ;-(
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 9:50
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    @GhostCat "and stop giving comments" You hardly gain something for commenting anyway. Either a bunch of downvotes, some lame excuses ("was in a hurry" -.-) or other non-sense. I only comment if I "know" the user and expect them to care for their answer and expect an update to improve it.
    – Tom
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:31
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    @Tom And I find that to be one of the "worst" practices on SO. I know that there have been many discussions around here; but I have made the experience that just a short sentence helps many folks, too.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 10:33
  • But one question on your answer: how often do you downvote bad questions that have not been touched for 6, 12, ... months?
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:18
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    @GhostCat That can happen if one finds that question while using a search engine (or it has been linked, for example as a dupe of another one) and one finds the question bad. But I can't tell how often that happens.
    – Tom
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:24
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    @GhostCat: A couple of times each month.
    – Cerbrus
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 13:31
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    Thanks God most people upvoted this answer. I almost fainted when I saw the question with a positive score.
    – Oriol
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 18:28
  • @Oriol I think the interesting aspect in there is: why make time zones such a difference? But alas, fine with me. I learned a lot of things today; so thanks for for all the feedback.
    – GhostCat
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 19:16
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    @GhostCat it also seems that short sentences get you downvoted if peiple disagree... Sounds like a risk you have to be willing to take if you are to comment. It's bad and shouldn't be done that way.... But I can't think of a way to stop these that wouldn't discourage overall voting
    – Patrice
    Commented Dec 20, 2016 at 23:20
  • It's ironic that folks think they are hurting the person who they are revenge downvoting. But in reality it is actually hurting the people that come to this site to find answers and may determine that the downvote means the answer isn't very good. In general, downvotes are rare and if you get one up vote it will negate 5 downvotes so there is no reason worrying about it. If everyone would just take the votes with a grain of salt and focus on giving good answers, they would be better off.
    – WJS
    Commented Apr 3, 2021 at 17:16

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