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Sometimes I can see questions which contains links and text within the link only,like this:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41053192/how-can-a-value-from-a-boolean-condition-be-stored-in-a-variable-if-that-value-p

And I think link-only questions are almost surely not following the rules. Can we have a filter to avoid those type of questions submitting?

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    Yeah…that should have never gotten through, especially from a brand-new user. Seems it's time to turn up the quality filter again. Dec 9, 2016 at 6:07
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    related: Disallow entire questions from being entirely bold, italic, ALL CAPS or linked "...why don't such questions go to triage queue?" (@CodyGray now that we've got Triage it can be done even without tweaking a filter)
    – gnat
    Dec 9, 2016 at 7:50
  • @gnat I can reason that the difference is that this type of link-only question is definitely against the rules, while the entirely bold etc. etc. might still be salvageable.
    – Gimby
    Dec 9, 2016 at 9:41
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    @Walfrat: say what? All the filter has to do is (1) check if an entire question consists of one hyperlink, (2) if Yes, reject it. Why should the link be followed?
    – Jongware
    Dec 9, 2016 at 10:15
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    Will a filter really help, or will we instead just get: "I have the following question: <link given> " Dec 9, 2016 at 10:32
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    Adding crap to queues requires humans to dig through it. I can't see why that would be more desirable than automatically filtering the crap out. The triage queue is useful in edge cases, where the content might be okay and needs a human reviewer. It is not necessary in obvious cases where a machine can be taught to do the filtering. A question that consists exclusively of a single line of link text is not an edge case in my opinion. Dec 9, 2016 at 10:58
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    @RadLexus Misunderstood, though it was those kind of question with a link then a quote block from the link, I see that in programmers.SE and it's refer generally to discuss this ${blog}.
    – Walfrat
    Dec 9, 2016 at 13:39
  • I thought such filter already exists... wow. Dec 9, 2016 at 13:44
  • @CodyGray I'm really surprised that there isn't a minimum length required to post the question as there is for comments. I could see the system automatically deleting them, but there should be some sort of floor to ensure at least some attempt at an MVCE was made.
    – krillgar
    Dec 9, 2016 at 14:13
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    There is a minimum length for questions, @krillgar. But it's the total length of the unformatted question that gets counted, so turning it into a link fooled the filter in this case. Also, I don't know what the minimum length is set to currently, but it's probably not long enough. Dec 9, 2016 at 14:16
  • @CodyGray Ah, ok. I went to create a new question with just the letter "a" in the body. Without actually hitting Submit, I didn't see any message.
    – krillgar
    Dec 9, 2016 at 14:18
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    @CodyGray have you forgot that slogan when they introduced Triage and hiding triaged questions from regular readers? "Take that, wall of cr@p". My understanding is, Triage is for cases when there is a strong evidence that these don't belong (like link-only questions) and SE team just couldn't gain enough data to justify their outright automatic blocking. Triage reviewers seem to be primarily expected to confirm that question shouldn't be there and only rarely catch possible mistakes of automatic system
    – gnat
    Dec 9, 2016 at 14:29
  • @HansOlsson - That's probably likely, the OP of the example question only made a link-only question because they couldn't post an image-only question, but if we make it hard to just post nonsense, maybe they'll go to the help center to figure out what's wrong.
    – BSMP
    Dec 9, 2016 at 16:46
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    stackoverflow.com/questions/41011047/… another recent egregious example
    – talonmies
    Dec 11, 2016 at 21:16

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We can... I mean, we kinda already do; the same one we use for answers:

Body must be at least 30 characters; you entered 11

Links are stripped prior to the length check, so if you don't have at least 30 characters worth of actual visible text then you'll be blocked. Now, 30 characters is a pitiful amount of text to require IMHO, but... That's a separate issue.

Now, this doesn't prevent you from writing a long-enough post and them making the whole thing into a link, but then again nothing stops you from making your entire post bold either, apart from the fact that both will likely be deleted in short order.

A quick check suggests there've only been 500-600 questions like this posted during the last year, with a bit over 80% deleted. Arguably then, this is just a way for askers to quickly let everyone know that they should just go straight for the close or downvote buttons.

I checked the logs for the person whose question you used as an example, btw: he actually made several attempts to post the code in the question prior to resorting to a link... But ran face-first into the check that requires at least a nominal amount of explanatory text with the code. This suggests that blocking the link too would've likely just resulted in yet another work-around.

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  • Could these filter grow nastier the more you hit them? ie. min quality score = 30 on first try, and .2 higher for each new attempt? I have to probably ask for actual numbers of how many people hits these filters first...
    – Braiam
    Dec 11, 2016 at 23:46
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    Problem is that even 100/100 just means "not egregiously bad". There's no way to identify "good" until real folks get to see it. Which is why repeated failures throw a question directly into Triage.
    – Shog9
    Dec 11, 2016 at 23:53
  • So in this specific instance, the filter arguably made the question worse? (Code dumps without explanation are really bad, of course, but a code dump is slightly better than a link, imo.)
    – jpmc26
    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:59
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    Neither one would've been a very good question, @jpmc26. This got deleted faster, so...
    – Shog9
    Dec 12, 2016 at 17:12
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Please read this link: http://www.example.com. My question is there.

This is what you can expect to happen from such a filter.

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    I believe the point of the proposal isn't getting rid of all link-only questions with no possibility of loopholes, but merely to eliminate those which can be unambiguously identified as such by a filter.
    – duplode
    Dec 11, 2016 at 21:58
  • Upvote or downvote? That's a tricky one! Nice example, but I don't share your view.
    – usr1234567
    Dec 11, 2016 at 22:03
  • "Other problems will result from this idea" isn't an argument against, unless either the idea doesn't help at all or the other problems are worse.
    – jscs
    Dec 11, 2016 at 23:31
  • @duplode The point of the filter is to make fewer bad questions reach the site. I think such a filter is unlikely to improve the quality of questions.
    – jpmc26
    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:50
  • @JoshCaswell It may be very slightly worse, as we'll be changing something that is instantly recognizable as a bad question to something that is a bad question with filler text, potentially enough to make it slightly harder to recognize as one. Shog even checked the logs and came to the conclusion that's probably what would have happened here.
    – jpmc26
    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:51
  • @JoshCaswell Also, I think you misinterpreted this answer. (Potentially my fault for not explaining enough.) It isn't saying, "This other bad thing will happen if you do." It's saying, "Users will always find ways to post bad questions. Such a filter wouldn't solve the problem, and I doubt it would even reduce it very much."
    – jpmc26
    Dec 12, 2016 at 6:58

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