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I'm tired of reading things like this in answers:

I don't have the reputation to comment, so posting this as an answer.

Do we want to have some kind of automatic filtering to catch answers like this and display an error instead of posting them? Perhaps something like this:

Do not post comments as answers. Answers which do not answer the question will be downvoted and may be subject to deletion.

We discussed this in May, but I don't see a or on it. It looks like it got bogged down in an argument over whether or not it would magically solve every instance of this problem (to which the answer is "no, obviously it won't, but it is likely to stop at least one well-meaning but ignorant person from doing this, so it is better than the status quo.").

Can we please get a firm yes or no on this?

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    It's a fair proposal - but would it not just lead to the OP removing such a statement from the post, and therewith dastardly avoiding your road block?
    – Jongware
    Oct 31, 2016 at 18:53
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    @Rad: I don't care. Such people are not the target audience of the block.
    – Kevin
    Oct 31, 2016 at 18:54
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    @RadLexus All of the blocks against certain bits of text can be circumvented trivially. The hope is that we'll throw a message up in front of the user telling them that if they don't have an answer, they shouldn't be answering. Whether or not they'll read it is a different question. I'm not for or against this idea, but "the user can circumvent it" isn't a good counter argument. Anything can be circumvented.
    – user229044 Mod
    Oct 31, 2016 at 18:54
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    Are you suggesting that someone be presented with a text warning when certain criteria are met, but still allowed to go ahead and post, or to be blocked entirely from posting answers with certain matching strings of text? If the latter, what strings of text? Can you show that those won't have false positives, leading to p0rblem-style frustration?
    – Brad Larson Mod
    Oct 31, 2016 at 19:08
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    Hey, once they know their answers get blocked when certain "string conditions" are met, they just won't add the (sorry for answering a comment) part and they will go straigth for their comments-as-answer without specifying anything. Remember... most of them are programmers, they know about string conditions. They also know they should not do it, but they will still do. When someone do that, it's because he feels like what he has to say is important. The sad part is that... most of the time it's not... Oct 31, 2016 at 20:12
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    "Make sure the answer you are posting answers the question. Answers that don't answer the question, can be deleted and the system could prevent you from answering questions."
    – Braiam
    Oct 31, 2016 at 20:14
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    @Antoine They won't necessarily know that the error is triggered by a set string text, nor what that is. They'll just know that they're seeing a warning telling them that they shouldn't post an answer when they don't have an answer. Some percent will figure it out, or find a relevant meta post describing what the filter text is, but a notable percentage will, at a minimum, not consider it worth the time to figure out how to violate the rules, even if they're not interested in following them.
    – Servy
    Oct 31, 2016 at 20:15
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    Side note: there is positive part of downvote and delete process for such "answers" - posters are getting close to answer ban in addition to question ban... And than may potentially read some SO guidelines to get out of the ban... :) Oct 31, 2016 at 20:57
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    @AlexeiLevenkov: Once again, those people are not the people we care about. We care about the people who don't know what the rules are, but are willing to follow them once they are informed of the rules. Yes, it would be nice if those people read the whole tour page and the entire help center, but they do not actually do that. The people who don't want to follow the rules will get banned sooner or later anyway, and at any rate, this proposal will not make things any worse w.r.t. those people.
    – Kevin
    Oct 31, 2016 at 21:20
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    I think this is a good idea, but I really hate the rhetoric of "if it saves even one person, it's a good idea!" There are far too many ideas that can help many more than just one person, and SE can't possibly implement them all with limited resources, so priorities, people. Features start at -100. Oct 31, 2016 at 21:32
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    Highly related meta.stackexchange.com/a/285924/311398 Oct 31, 2016 at 21:45
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    @BradLarson Slightly related. Here is a list of blacklisted words. Here are the 597 posts caught by the filter. But true, we can't guarantee that there will be no fps. There were 40 fps (many due to a bug in the detection). Oct 31, 2016 at 21:55
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    This has been addressed so many times on meta. Still nobody has managed to give a sound rationale why the site allows a 1 rep user to post an answer and not a comment, when we have so much higher expectations on answers than on comments. The original reason was something about spam filters and poor mod tools for comments. I guess the core problem is that user moderators aren't allowed to moderate comments.
    – Lundin
    Nov 3, 2016 at 9:28
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    I think there should not be a minimum reputation for posting comments. That would solve everything. Instead we should have a mechanism for downvoting comments. Downvoted comments from people with less than a minimum reputation will be hidden unless a "show all comments" link is clicked
    – Aldian
    Nov 3, 2016 at 9:48
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    @Lundin We don't want to stop new users from answering. Suppose you're an expert in ObscureStuff, but you've never been on Stack Exchange before. One day you come across a question on ObscureStuff Stack Exchange, to which you know the answer. We don't want to stop you from posting the answer by forcing you to gain rep first. On the other hand, if comments were free, we'd see a lot of off-topic commenting, joke comments and general clutter from people who don't understand our model - or don't care about it. Nov 3, 2016 at 9:59

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