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Can we have a suggested edit rejection reason for editing posts that are of very low quality?

Caveat: I'm not referring to questions that are borderline ok and need a tidy up, I'm referring to questions like:

My app not working plz help.

or answers like:

how can i do this. show me.

When a question is such low quality that there is no way a person, other than the OP can edit it to make it on topic, often there will be suggested edits to improve grammar or worse still add tags (those these can be rejected using adding irrelevant tags).

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The causes harm custom reason is not really suitable, as they're not causing harm, just wasting time and expecting a rep reward for editing crap that needs to be deleted.

It but may still fall into the no improvement whatsoever, as the post is unfit for the site.

no improvement whatsoever

This edit does not make the post even a little bit easier to read, easier to find, more accurate or more accessible. Changes are either completely superfluous or actively harm readability.

The answer to this question - Why is there not an edit-rejection reason to cover cleanups of off-topic questions? suggests that this would be the correct rejection message to give edit suggestions made to such low quality posts (thanks to Siguza for the link).

However, This does not sit well with me, as it doesn't really provide guided feedback to the editor. I'm thinking of a way to educate the suggested editor.

editing very low quality posts

Editing very low quality posts is a wasted effort, as the post is likely to be deleted. It doesn't assist in improving the site, please edit a post that is ontopic.

We could add:

It's a bit like painting out a suite on the Titanic.

Not a dup, this is a feature-request.

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    The other thing that really annoys me if when people edit tags and leave atrocious grammar.
    – user3956566
    Sep 3, 2016 at 8:08
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    They will lose any reputation earned by editing once the question is deleted.
    – user000001
    Sep 3, 2016 at 8:50
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    @user000001 yeh, but it's annoying, as I want a decent edit rejection reason.
    – user3956566
    Sep 3, 2016 at 8:52
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    Technically, it does cause harm. In many cases pending flags are marked as helpful and cleared after sny edit, so any progress (like recommend delete votes in the LQ queue) need to start over. Sep 3, 2016 at 9:33
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    @Yvette the biggest concern I have with the idea is how much would it be misused relative to the educational opportunity? As a community, we have enough trouble agreeing on exactly what "low quality" means. So while you potentially educate some users, you potentially have reviews who use this reason where it wasn't intended and then are confused by the reason because the post isn't low quality in their mind (and maybe in the minds of many members of the community). And all of this assumes the editors even read the reject reason to begin with Sep 3, 2016 at 10:34
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    Here it says such edits should be rejected as "no improvement whatsoever", so technically this question is a dupe. However, I disagree with that because "no improvement whatsoever" will not teach the editor anything about why their edit was rejected, so it's a very bad reject reason to choose, and it would make much sense to have a separate one for turd polishing. (Feel like adding that to the question, @Yvette?)
    – Siguza
    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:40
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    (off: so hard to resist posting an answer: how can i do this. show me.)
    – ppeterka
    Sep 3, 2016 at 12:44
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    I'd say "clearly conflicts with author's intent" is appropriate. The author didn't intend to write a coherent question, so an editor shouldn't try to change that.
    – SeinopSys
    Sep 3, 2016 at 13:50
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    @SeinopSys that is hilarious
    – user3956566
    Sep 3, 2016 at 14:34
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    This is [status-de-facto-declined] on Meta.SE.
    – jscs
    Sep 3, 2016 at 17:47
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    "You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter". So I call this type of edit a glitter-roll. :)
    – PM 2Ring
    Sep 4, 2016 at 14:12
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    @Yvette: here, this one's just a picture of the result.
    – Martha
    Sep 5, 2016 at 23:27
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    @Martha omg you really can polish a turd. This upsets the entire premise of meta .... O>O
    – user3956566
    Sep 5, 2016 at 23:29
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    I use the custom reject reason (aka "causes harm") and then explain that such posts should be deleted, not edited. I once posted a request to rename "causes harm" to "other". But don't worry too much about what it is called; just try to give the right feedback to the editor.
    – S.L. Barth
    Sep 16, 2016 at 7:20

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