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I faced a situation where a user made a minor edit to my Windows Shell method related question by removing shell tag from it.

We can't deny however Windows has shell as well, and one of the most popular and broadly used programs ever Windows Explorer represents GUI for that shell.

This leads to the suggestion to add a tag for Windows shell like shell-method, or windows-shell, or shell32, or similar. And the question, why such tag doesn't exists thus far, and if there is an equivalent synonym for Windows shell in SO tags collection?

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    Shell is annoyingly overloaded in the Windows world: those extra items programs like to install on your right-click menus are shell extensions, for example. That's quite different from the usage of shell as a command-line/scripting interface. Take that into account if you want a new tag. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:19
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    Please read more about Windows Shell here. Possibly windows-shell tag will suffice? I can understand some antagonism to Windows world from certain Linux devs, but hey guys lets face the reality bits. Windows does exist, and is the most used OS on the planet. For objectivity sake, we can't ignore it, and neither its shell. :)
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:26
  • @sambul35: That document makes it very clear why that isn't a "shell" in the same sense as the various Unix shells. The "Windows Shell" is really a registry of various objects, using an API, which can be accessed and manipulated in various ways. That's not how the term is used elsewhere. And since that term predates Windows itself, the tag "shell" shall refer to the common usage, not that specific Windows technology. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:33
  • @Nicol Bolas I ask you for an alternative to the tag when referencing Windows Shell in generic manner regardless in what construct it was used at the moment. Whatever your interpretation of Windows shell definition is, it doesn't mean we should not have relevant tag in the SO tags collection.
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:37
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    Yes, you are programming the [windows] [shell], using the [shell32] automation object. The tag was removed by a Linux programmer, haters will hate. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:40
  • May be shell32 is the appropriate tag?
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:45
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    FYI: Windows is not the most used OS by a long-shot. Android installs alone outnumber Windows installs. The only place Windows has majority install shares is desktop installs. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:47
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    @HansPassant: "The tag was removed by a Linux programmer, haters will hate." The shell tag wiki clearly states it is for Unix-style shells. Not Windows cmd, not Powershell, and certainly not this thing which isn't at all like a Unix-style shell. This isn't about haters; this is about proper categorization. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:52
  • @Alexander O'Mara How about laptops? Anyway, Android proliferation in smartphones is not the reason to deny Windows Shell its own tag. :)
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:54
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    It says "most often associated", that does not mean we own it, get off our lawn! Jul 30, 2016 at 18:55
  • I don't know about laptop vs desktop specifically, my usage of "desktop" includes both. I don't disagree about the tag, just the above statement about usage shares. :) Jul 30, 2016 at 18:57
  • @Hans Passant In fact, "most often associated" is rather true for bash when it comes to Linux.
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:57
  • Well, I recommend you do not use the [bash] tag. Sigh. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:59
  • I did further research and found that windows-shell tag already exists, hence it may be used to tag Windows Shell related questions. As well, shell32 tag exists, though both are far less intuitive to find compare to shell.
    – sambul35
    Jul 31, 2016 at 2:40

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Windows actually has several shells. There's the general command line "shell", which has the tag . There's Powershell, which appropriately has the tag . Win10 will even be getting a legit bash shell of some form, which would presumably use the existing .

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  • However, only one Windows shell is officially named Windows Shell. Your reasoning doesn't justify lack of the relevant tag. And neither using 2nd account to place serial downvotes and upvote your own comment in the referenced question, despite you already removed shell tag from it, and thus there was no reason for the downvote.
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:32
  • "Your reasoning doesn't justify lack of the relevant tag." I never said that there shouldn't be a relevant tag for that topic. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:35
  • @sambul35: "And neither using 2nd account to place serial downvotes and upvote your own comment in the referenced question, despite you already removed shell tag from it, and thus there was no reason for the downvote." Please take your paranoia out of this thread. I have no alt-accounts. I haven't edited your question or commented on it in any way. I have far more important things to do than to troll someone on Stack Overflow. People are not out to get you. Jul 30, 2016 at 18:35
  • I apologize, it was Dummy00001. :)
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:42
  • Would you consider adding to your answer, what tag do you propose for Windows Shell? I wanted to upvote or accept it, but don't know what exactly you propose?
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 19:09
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Either use one/some of these:

  • cscript
  • vbscript
  • shell32 This is the automation object, not a shell as the *nix world tend to look at it
  • wsh which has synonyms
  • cmd if your question is about the starting and environment of the script.

I have never heard of shell-method in the context of WSH/CScript so in any case that would be a very bad name for a tag.

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  • The question in question looks more like a batch script.
    – Braiam
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:19
  • @rene The linked question refers to CopyHere Windows Shell method. In that post the method is called from VBS, but in many other instances various Windows Shell methods can be called from Jscript, Javascript, Powershell, etc. More about Windows Shell here. Possibly windows-shell tag will suffice?
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:20
  • @Braiam it does some hackery to start as a batch then to become a cscript
    – rene
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:21
  • @Braiam Its a typical hybrid batch script. :)
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:21
  • ah, that's why right in the middle I felt like reading klingon...
    – Braiam
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:22
  • @Braiam There is MORE to hybrids, a lot more, with a combination of VBS, Jscript, Powershell, Javascript used in the same batch without saving stuff to files very efficiently and fast. :)
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:48
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I've just taken a look at the current tags Stack Overflow offers.

I believe this is a great opportunity for us to ask a person (with good reputation) to make a new tag, which could be called something life windows-shell, or as you said: shell-method.

If ever you think you need to make a new tag (and if you don't have enough reputation to do so), then you can just add a temporary comment to your question: Can someone please create a tag (Name of Tag).

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  • Exactly right IMO.
    – sambul35
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:02
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    No, we already have wsh which covers the topic already, among two other tags. No need to create a new tag.
    – rene
    Jul 30, 2016 at 18:17

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