There is a lot of excitement/activity around this particular question: Let's improve Stack Overflow's "Ask a Question" page!. I think it is a great question and the activity is great.
However, I think that one of the problems that leads to some of the questions that frustrate people is that many of the model questions and highly upvoted questions are not the type of questions the community is willing to accept when they show up on the site today from a new user (Reputation = 1).
Look at this question as well as the comments.
How do I check whether a file exists using Python?
I want you to imagine your response to that question if it appeared for the first time today. Also assume that none of the duplicates to that question existed either.
Look at the comments on this question:
I know from my own experiences that learning to write a decent question is not easy. And when I am writing a question I am dealing with my confusion and the tyranny of the urgent. I am not writing code just for grins I have some bigger purpose in mind. You have to expect that from a new user. They are probably just learning to do amazing things and they have to get those things done immediately.
If I was struggling with trying to do something and finally found this site, poked around a bit and looked at some of the existing highly up-voted questions and this question (Do Swift-based applications work on OS X 10.9/iOS 7 and lower?) I would be really confused, frustrated and disappointed by the responses I would get to my question.
I have to laugh, as I was writing this - here is the latest Python question https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38081869/beginner-coding-and-sticking-with-a-language. Clearly even perfect models will not keep all the noise off the site.
I don't have a question here, I am just wondering if SO is presenting the right model questions to new users.
From the answer below This is why there's so much interest in improving the Ask page: it's much, much easier for a question to do well when it states a problem clearly and in sufficient detail right from the start.
I am not objecting to improving the Ask A Question page at all - please reread my first paragraph. I am simply observing that there should be considerable care and thought put into the model/example questions.
We are a TechSmith client I am always impressed with the effort they put into understanding what their customers think when they look at web pages or when they look at their applications. I think I have participated in 3 different sessions with their UI team and they ask very simple and direct questions about what I think I am seeing when I look at one of their products or pages. They told me that they regularly try to hold sessions with customers who have a range of experiences with their products and find different issues with different customer classes.
Some of the comments below and the answer suggest to me that many of you do not understand what it is like to be a novice in this area. If you want novices to use the site you expect them to use it correctly (as defined by the community) you have to provide good examples. Good examples are not necessarily highly up-voted questions.
My analysis of the file exists question is that the try-except language is really what makes it a good question. But if I were new to Python I would not understand that subtlety.
?
icon too. Thanks! --- These links AREN'T visible enought then. Are they explained in the "tour" ?edits
I've made so far were "paragraphing and indenting". (I consider myself a new user, by the way ;) )