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Every once in a while I come across a situation like this where an OP makes a mistake in their example code, gets called out, then edits it (not realizing the edit history is visible) and replies to the comments about the bug in their code that they have no idea what that person is talking about and their code works just fine.

I don't really care that much, but still, it's kind of rude and sneaky.

For instance, the OP in the linked question above asked for help with a plot, giving nice example code... except the code was broken. I commented the errors it gave and speculated that he was missing a , or ) somewhere. He added the missing ) then told me it works fine for him and he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Should we bother saying anything in this situation? Should we downvote? Or just let it go?

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    Meh, move on. As long as it's not invalidating an answer, let them feel smart.
    – Kyll
    Commented Jun 18, 2016 at 19:23
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    @Kyll Yea that's probably best I guess, thanks
    – Hack-R
    Commented Jun 18, 2016 at 19:24
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    I'd argue that letting them know that their change is visible makes it less likely that they'll annoy other folks the same way in the future. That can be as simple as a "FYI". Commented Jun 18, 2016 at 23:06
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    way to put that persons post on blast, haha Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 6:40
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    @Paul OP is original poster, usually referred to as Asker on this site. Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 7:48
  • He has 11 downvotes now :_) Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 8:37
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    Bloody meta-effect :(
    – rene
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 11:30
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    (Given that the comments are now deleted, I can't see for myself) Are you sure that he was being "sneaky"? If someone finds a typo in my code and points it out, it's not unheard-of for me to fix it and say "huh what typo I don't see what you mean nope no typos there nuh-uh shifty eyes"
    – Nic
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 21:18
  • @QPaysTaxes True but then I would expect at least a smiley or some other indicator of irony.
    – awendt
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 7:14
  • I see the ) in the edit history but I don't see any other changes. Yet your comment mentions two errors. How was the other one resolved?
    – user2285236
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 8:00
  • I updated the post, please consider re-opening and/or removing your downvotes
    – zx8754
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 10:47
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    It didn't need calling out on here, you've just killed the question. @zx8754 Good effort though to revive it, up-voted.
    – user692942
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:03
  • @zx8754: I am not sure I agree with your edit to that question. Haven't we long said that meta-commentary is confusing for readers who don't care about the Meta Effect, or who would be confused that the "original question" is not front and centre? I proposed that the edit/task/note is merged in transparently, for the benefit of future readers (though I will leave it to you, so as not to overwrite your changes).
    – halfer
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:13
  • @halfer I thought I marked it clearly as "Edit" and "Original Post", let me know what is the "right" way of edit, or feel free to update.
    – zx8754
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:19
  • @zx8754: most of this is a matter of opinion, but in general I think questions should have Edit/Update sections at the end, if at all. Consider the new reader: if they do not know what "meta effect" is they may skip to a new question, since they may think that it's domain knowledge they don't have (and I'd wager less than 5% of the readership know what this is). Then they might wonder why blocks of the question have been exploded outside of the "real question", which to me spoils the Q&A flow for a reader some months from now.
    – halfer
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:23

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It is really up to any user how to handle feedback. You'll find several types of responses:

  • None at all
  • Polite
  • Rude
  • Down playing
  • Sheepish
  • Offensive
  • Denial

Some individuals might learn over time that both the truth and a form of politeness are the preferred/social accepted ways to interact with others. I'm happy with being rude now and then.

As a commentator, it is best to focus on the issue in the post and make sure those get fixed, no matter how you are treated. If you can fix it yourself and the OP shows no signs of taking feedback seriously, please edit the post. If you can't fix the post, make sure it is clear in a comment what needs to be edited. Before you move on, clean-up the comments you deem no longer needed and flag what is not constructive, chatty or rude.

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    This is a brilliant answer and explanation of the types of feedback, thanks.
    – user5870134
    Commented Jun 18, 2016 at 22:06
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    Now let me categorize the people corresponding to each type of response ... *--> gets flagged* Commented Jun 19, 2016 at 0:18
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    clean-up the comments you deem no longer needed If they're not your comments, you can use the "obsolete" flag. That's what the OP should have done if they had the privilege.
    – Laurel
    Commented Jun 19, 2016 at 22:48
  • What does "sheepish" mean? Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 8:47
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    @TomášZato Like a Sheep: Meh
    – rene
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 11:21
  • @TomášZato: Someone who apologizes (too much for the liking of other participants in the conversation) is being sheepish. Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 14:07
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    @TomášZato Sheepish means embarrassed.
    – Thriggle
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 14:52
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    @rene Interesting--I've always thought of "meh" as more commonly an expression of a devil-may-care attitude than a sheepish one. Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 16:18
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    "Devil-may-care" indicates an unusual lack of concern. "Meh" indicates a perfectly ordinary lack of concern. The closest formal English synonym is probably "who cares?"
    – Jeffiekins
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 17:55
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    You forgot entitled :)
    – Travis J
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 18:05
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    You forgot "owning up to it and acknowledging one's shortcomings". It does happen, if entirely too rarely. Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 21:26
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    @Grant — But if that's the case, the typo is the entire issue and fixing it solves the problem, you should vote to close as off-topic "simple typographical error" as was done with the question in question. The question is of no value to future visitors.
    – Stephen P
    Commented Jun 20, 2016 at 23:52
  • I updated the post, please consider re-opening and/or removing your downvotes.
    – zx8754
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 10:47
  • @zx8754 which down votes? Those 7 on your question?
    – rene
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:29
  • @rene No, not this meta post, I meant in the linked post. Which is now edited and re-opened. Sorry, this comment was directed to downvoters.
    – zx8754
    Commented Jun 21, 2016 at 11:35
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If it only invalidates a comment, I just remove the comment. Life's too short to worry about it.

If it invalidates an answer without noting the edit in the text of the question, I may downvote and vote to close, on the basis that questions trying to address two unrelated issues are too broad and a new question should have been asked instead.

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There could be two situations:

1. Someone comments and the asker updates the question (This is what the linked question currently looks like to me).

In this case I might add a comment to clarify that the problem has been solved, in order to avoid confusion for future readers.

2. Someone comments, the asker updates the question and replies that nothing is wrong

In this case it is most important that you don't get rude yourself. That being said, I am not a great fan of ignoring this as it can confuse or demoralize the person who tried to help. As such I would reply as such:

His comment referred to the original question, after the current edit this issue indeed no longer relevant.

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There's one other thing you haven't considered. The user, instead of copy/pasting his code over, typed it out and missed a , or some other items. I know I've been guilty of that fact for a one-liner. I just shrug and look to see what else could be wrong.

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it depends. if the OP is asking "what's wrong with this code" and the answer is inside that edit, I'd call them on it - they should update properly to reflect that they answered their question. if the edit is entirely irrelevant to the question at hand, just let it go.

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