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I recently came across a comment including:

How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example

And I realised I have never come across it before, which seems odd given the amount of time I've been posting on Stack Exchange and generally making a nuisance of myself. If it had been diplomatically introduced to me when I first started... I... um... would probably have found it patronising and ignored it but... Probably if I weren't so hot headed I'd have found the article really useful and it would have saved a lot of "huh, why was this question downvoted" confusion, which I like to save for genuinely politically motivated downvotes and conspiracies.

In any eventuality, I assume the link to it is tucked away somewhere in the help center, so I just thought I'd ask if we could put it somewhere more prominent, or if I'm just being a massive buffoon and overlooking some already obvious placement... Or maybe people could just post it in comments to more questions, as and where it's relevant. I shall certain try to.

It really is rather lovely.

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    "Or maybe people could just post it as comment to more questions, as and where it's relevant. " It appears as relevant when the question is closed for the appropriate reasons. Also it's very frequently used in comments, and there's a magic short cut for it [MCVE]. Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 16:39
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    @πάνταῥεῖ I guess mine have never been closed for those reasons then? Or I didn't notice it, which seems likely also. I'm sure a lot of the time I could have benefited from it, and I lament not finding it sooner. Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 16:40
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    Maybe an idea would be to add a link to it on the asking advice page, which all new users see when attempting to ask a question. Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 16:48
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    @JonasCz Hmm, it's already well present in the 1st link listed: What topics can I ask about here?. Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 17:05
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    @πάνταῥεῖ I think a direct link to [mcve] on that asking advice page would be even better, or am I missing something and there is one already ? Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 17:07
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    @JonasCz You're probably right. It's an indirect link there yes. Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 17:08
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    The tour page does a good job of explaining how the network works, but not what is expected by users. You can visit the help center at the end of the tour and then somewhere find How to Ask and [mcve], but it is pretty far-fetched for such utterly beautiful information. A good improvement of the tour page would make new users understand Stack Overflow (and the other sections of the network) a lot better, and make it easier for others to tell them where to go to learn in case they missed it by simply writing [tour].
    – RaminS
    Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 22:48
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    Relevant... there's also sscce.org
    – DavidG
    Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 22:49
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    I can't bring my self to call it "beautiful" until the leading "e" in "example" gets capitalized. The copy editor in me screams whenever I type [MCVE] and get an "MCVe" instead. Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 5:32
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    @πάνταῥεῖ Thanks also for indirectly pointing me to the list of [magic] shorthands; meta.stackexchange.com/questions/92060/…
    – tripleee
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 6:55
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    The best thing about MCVE is that when you try to create a MCVE, you generally solve the problem yourself.
    – user2285236
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 9:32
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    @GolezTrol 2 comments up. Check tripleee's link. Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 11:10
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    The last five to ten times I started asking an SO question, I solved the problem during the course of creating the MCVE.
    – Tenfour04
    Commented Jun 6, 2016 at 16:43
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    @RobotKarel314, I'm mentally downvoting your comment for not knowing that it's not possible to downvote comments :)
    – Benjol
    Commented Jun 7, 2016 at 12:22
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    @fracz Read all of the comments above thoroughly. Commented Jun 8, 2016 at 6:36

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The link has been there for a long time in the Asking section. It is also a magical link. Adding [mcve] to a comment will automatically add a link to that help page, as suggested in comments by NathanOliver. (also note you will need to add in more characters to fulfill the minimum required for a comment e.g. "please see [mcve]")

There is so much to remember on this site I keep the important things in one of the following forms.I would suggest:

  1. Bookmarking it.

  2. You can also make a gist of auto-comments and keep the link in those, so it's available for comments.

  3. I also keep the links on my profile that I want to keep handy:

  4. I also keep a text file of auto comments to paste, update and save when I visit a site.

  5. Also, as pointed out in the comments by Elliott Frisch there is the Repository of useful pro-forma comments

  6. There is also common_comments_box.user.js written by Kevin that can be used with Grease Monkey as suggested byPM 2Ring in the comments.

  7. There is also Benjol/SE-AutoReviewComments written by Benjol (can be used with Grease Monkey, or as an extension, depending on browser/version).

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  • Yeah, I can see it now... I just couldn't see it so well when I started out. Right now I have one contact lense in, so it's a little blurry, but that's besides the point ;). Commented Jun 5, 2016 at 22:51

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