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After reviewing the goals and direction of Stack Overflow here, why is it that SO allows people to mine or reap reputation from questions such as this?

I've heard from moderators that there is a backlog of flags they deal with, so this introduces some inconsistency in which these types of questions are dealt with. I mean, the people of high rep who persistently answer bad questions for reputation and treat SO as if it's a message board should have their reputation taken and they should have to start again.

Some examples:

In one instance Stack Overflow is a Q&A for programmers to get quality answers for problems. On the another hand, standards are generally a good principle to know, learn or learn where to find them. This is somewhat inconsistent because a lot of these are discussion based and violate the rules not to mention perfectly meet the "Primarily opinion based" flag.

My question is why can't these people be penalized so they learn they need to understand the rules and ensure they follow them correctly and not try to reap reputation?

Edit TheLostMind made a very valid point in the comments regarding good content contributed:

so you are suggesting that we should ignore their "overall" contribution on SO?

I think that some kind of infraction system or sanctions could be proposed, where accounts that receive too many infractions over a short period of time (3 days) have that reputation seized, while their content is rewarded. This means that if the posts are reported/flagged, they don't get the rep (but also allowing for a more automated approach in the future).


The reason for this question is because occasionally I find myself in a bit of a situation where by I need help from other programmers; my first thoughts are "let's Google this problem" and nine times out of ten Stack Overflow hits the first page, usually with multiple posts that all match my question. When I open them each of them are specific problems to a certain environment which really does not help. So I go back to Google and reword things.

But now I find there are more useless articles on Stack Overflow as a direct result of answering questions that should not even be answered as opposed to just simply closing them. I mean, as time goes on, will Stack Overflow become a knowledge base with occasional edits or a collection of differing versions of articles to solve specific problems? At the minute it feels like a message board; we sort of look up to high-rep members to uphold the rules a bit more.

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    related: Stack Overflow technology makes me write bad answers
    – gnat
    Apr 29, 2016 at 13:12
  • "Anyway it's more opinion based." (sigh)
    – Jongware
    Apr 29, 2016 at 13:12
  • The good news is is that if the question really does not belong here then we can close and delete it. Any rep gained as long it is less the 60 days old will be lost when the answer is delete along with the question. Apr 29, 2016 at 13:14
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    I agree that answering low quality questions (and dupes) is not a good thing but honestly the "solution" you propose is unacceptable. have their reputation taken and they should have to start again - so you are suggesting that we should ignore their "overall" contribution on SO? Apr 29, 2016 at 13:15
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    I guess, my question is why can't these people be penalised so they learn they need to understand the rules and ensure they follow them correctly and not try to reap reputation. Because those users vastly outnumber the people that care about quality content.
    – Servy
    Apr 29, 2016 at 13:16
  • @NathanOliver If that actually happened a significant percentage of the time it would help a bit, but 1) Even if 75% of a user's help-vampire food is deleted, they're still better off answering those questions than not, as far as their rep is concerned and 2) Approximately 0% of these questions actually get deleted when there is any answer.
    – Servy
    Apr 29, 2016 at 13:17
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    Things like these should come from within. It's very difficult to "enforce" such things on SO because they are technically correct but ethically wrong. Also note that many a times its quite "tempting" to answer a simple question instead of "searching for the right dupe" :) Apr 29, 2016 at 13:21
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    Also related: Remove the incentive for FGITW to answer well known dupes That one's a feature request so if you agree with it, up vote it.
    – BSMP
    Apr 29, 2016 at 15:00
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    Here's an idea, Let's add a button to the left of the post. It can look like an arrow pointing down, and if you feel like a question or answer isn't very useful, you can click that button, and it will deduct a little bit of reputation from the poster. Apr 29, 2016 at 16:16
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    But for serious, I feel like people need to take answer quality a bit more seriously. If you don't down-vote unhelpful answers, even if they happen to be technically correct, then people treat SO like some sort of trivia game. Apr 29, 2016 at 16:20
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    @ash yes it does. The reason people keep posting bad answers is because people don't down-vote bad answers enough. Instead they get rewarded for it with upvotes. If you want to discourage bad answers, then do your part and participate in community moderation by ruthlessly down-voting them. And if you want to appeal to the community, ask them to downvote ruthlessly too. Negatively scored posts feel bad, even if you gained net rep on them. People will be more afraid to post bad answers if they keep getting negative scores. Apr 29, 2016 at 16:28
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    @SamIam one of the reasons why people don't downvote is symptahy votes. Downvote + sympathy upvpote gives positive reputation - so in current state it may be better to ignore such posts... Apr 29, 2016 at 16:55
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    @SamIam But it's not strictly a matter of culture. Part of the problem is 1 person who values crap has their votes end up being worth 5 people who value quality. Next, there's the fact that it takes much less rep to earn the ability to upvote than to downvote, and the fact that downvoting punishes the voter for voicing their opinion. And that's not even getting into the issues of human nature in which it makes people feel good to compliment others, so lots of people upvote content they know full well isn't good because it makes them feel good to cast said upvotes.
    – Servy
    Apr 29, 2016 at 19:47
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    Ash I would be careful before you characterize the motivation of Answerer's activity
    – Drew
    Apr 30, 2016 at 12:57

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Actually this is in place. You can (and should) delete lazy duplicates that do not improve the wealth of keywords to help people to find the canonical question easily. This is even said in the blog:

  1. Having dozens and dozens of variations of the same question is clearly bad.

If you find a question that has more than 10 duplicates... it probably needs conscious duplicate pruning. (Which has the nice side effect that it removes the rep that was gained from the duplicated.)

We can still delete the ones we find to be unhelpful. If a question uses exactly the same keywords as another, i.e., it should have turned up the original question in a search, we can just delete it. -- Bill the Lizard

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  • FYI it only removes the rep if it is less then 60 days old or less them 3 upvotes and older than 60 days. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/266886/4342498 Apr 30, 2016 at 13:54
  • @NathanOliver I know, but if we are doing this right, we should be deleting dupes before the 60 days are up.
    – Braiam
    Apr 30, 2016 at 13:58
  • Not to poison your answer which I upvoted. But what are your thoughts on the Title (penalty) system concept. So as to avoid being accused of not answering the question.
    – Drew
    Apr 30, 2016 at 14:13
  • @Drew that we already have the tools to make this happen. If you answer a bad duplicated question, you will lose any rep gain associated with it.
    – Braiam
    Apr 30, 2016 at 14:40

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