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Is there a reason that job matches — whatever that is — should be put on hold, simply because I do not have a location set? I believe not, and I hope that you'll change this.

I don't like to share my location on-line for the same reason I don't allow root logins to an ssh server: it's just a good security principle. Also, my city is not a big tech center, so I'm mostly interested in remote jobs, anyway. Do I have to share my location with the world? (With whom?)

I'm unclear on whether all of the the "Job Match" fields are shared publicly, only with potential employers, or are "private." (At least "Full Name" is obvious, and I'm not worried about the others, except for "Current location".) I do recognize this field from the profile, and thought that it is public.

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Thanks!

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    'United States' is a valid input for location (I just tried), and that information is publicly available on your github account which you link to in your profile. I don't think there's a problem with requiring a location at a broad level like country.
    – Rob Mod
    Apr 7, 2016 at 5:25
  • Okay, that is a good thing. I think I'll try that. Still seems odd to require it when SO is a big advocate of remote jobs, though.
    – jpaugh
    Apr 7, 2016 at 5:31
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    @Rob "Earth" works. I'm satisfied, if only because I'm amused. Perhaps I should update my GitHub profile as well...
    – jpaugh
    Apr 7, 2016 at 5:32
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    If you're after remote jobs, wouldn't you also want to consider space?
    – Jens Erat
    Apr 8, 2016 at 11:15
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    @JensErat If I can find a job in space, I don't want remote. I want relocation!
    – jpaugh
    Apr 9, 2016 at 17:25

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Even for completely remote jobs, employers usually want to know where a candidate is located (the country at the very least). A company may be looking for a remote developer, but they may only want to hire in the US because they don't have the infrastructure for international salary accounting. Or they may be in Europe, and while they're okay with international remotes, they still want a significant timezone overlap with the rest of the team, and thus wouldn't want to hire someone in New Zealand. Or, for various reasons, it may not be legally possible for a company to hire people in certain countries.

Long story short, a recruiter looking at a profile expects to see the candidate's location, and that's why until there's something there, the profile won't be shown in employers' search results.

Now, your point about not making the location public (i.e. to only show it to employers interested in hiring you, but not everyone viewing your Stack Overflow profile) is absolutely valid.

Currently the location field in the Developer Story and the location field in the public profile are backed by the same data. For the private beta (where the Dev Story isn't used for employer matching anyway) we decided to live with a warning, but eventually, we'll make it possible to enter two different things, say, a rough location (e.g. country) or nothing at all in the public profile, but a more specific location in the Developer Story (which would necessarily have to be hidden in that case, otherwise it would be pointless).

Now, if you're just using your Dev Story to showcase yourself as a developer, but aren't actually interested in being contacted about jobs, none of this matters – in that case, you wouldn't want to hide your Dev Story, but you could be as specific or non-specific about your location as you want in it.

But if you have chosen either "I'm actively looking for a new job" or "Not looking, but wouldn't mind hearing about interesting jobs", then we show the "on hold" warning to let you know that right now, you won't be hearing anything because your data isn't as complete as it needs to be for it to be put in front of employers.

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  • I think there's a pretty smart focus on helping people actually get contacted should they open themselves to matches, which also coincides with employers being able to more quickly scope the right candidates. It's really turning out to be a nice balance of optimization on both sides, with my favorite being programmers being much more likely to be contacted if they hope to be. I don't think other platforms do that very well at all. When you make candidates the star and priority, everything else just works so much better.
    – user50049
    Apr 7, 2016 at 8:28
  • Thanks! All of this make sense, and I'm glad that the cross-shared data is just a beta thing. Please carry on making awesome stuff!
    – jpaugh
    Apr 7, 2016 at 17:50
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    hmm, the location alone only matters for working remotely (well, actually, it's the timezone really), for legal issues, what employers really need to know is the citizenship. and those two could be different if i am not staying in my home country.
    – eMBee
    Apr 8, 2016 at 15:11

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