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This tag has been burninated. Please do not recreate it. If you need advice on which tag to use, see the answer below. If you see this tag reappearing, it may need to be blacklisted.


At the time of writing, there are 301 questions tagged , but no one is actually following the tag. This makes sense, since you can hardly be an expert in semicolons. They work entirely differently in many languages and are only a tiny fraction of most languages' syntax.

I propose that should be burninated or possibly re-tagged to / made a synonym of .

An example of where the semicolon tag comes close to being valid is What does the leading semicolon in JavaScript libraries do?.

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    Related: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/207818/…
    – Kara
    Commented Feb 19, 2016 at 18:33
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    I suspect almost every question so tagged could be closed as "a simple typographic error".
    – Raedwald
    Commented Feb 19, 2016 at 21:07
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    Does JavaScript's semicolon insertion deserve a tag of its own? (I don't do JS, just occasionally see people citing semicolon insertion as a misfeature.) Commented Feb 20, 2016 at 2:52
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    How many people actually know how to use a semicolon; anyway? Commented Feb 20, 2016 at 4:26
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    maybe merge it with colon ? There's a whole medical discipline that evolves around that one
    – charlietfl
    Commented Feb 20, 2016 at 18:26
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    I do think we could need a tag for automatic semicolon insertion in JS.
    – Bergi
    Commented Feb 20, 2016 at 18:34
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    Burninate it so I can finally change my product name to semicolon Commented Feb 21, 2016 at 4:58
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    Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +112/-4; A1 (Saying yes): +90/-4;
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 4:49
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    "end of the line for [semicolon]"
    – Raedwald
    Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 14:32
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    Give this tag a [semicolon]oscopy.
    – rgettman
    Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 16:00
  • Yes, we should burninate the semicolon tag. Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 16:59
  • Hmm, no-one is watching it you say; well not no more! ;-D... though I'll try to be ready with marshmallows when the mob arrives.
    – S0AndS0
    Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 22:42
  • Stats at the end of featuring: Q: +184/-5. A1 (Saying Yes): +135/-6. A2 (Saying Yes): +18/0. The community has voted in favor of the burnination
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Mar 24, 2019 at 6:23
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    At some point, the colon and comma tags should be given the same "burnination" treatment as semicolon is currently getting — and for the same reason. Some medical doctors specialize in the treatment of diseases of the colon, but programmers don't. Commented Mar 24, 2019 at 20:52
  • I also came across the backslash tag — it might need attention too (1 watcher, ~750 questions). Commented Mar 25, 2019 at 16:19

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The tag has no value, and should be burninated.

It should not be made a synonym of however. That tag is probably a meta-tag, and has a burninate request of its own.

I'd prefer not to re-tag to ; simply retag it to the relevant language.

Looking at the criteria for tag burnination, we find the following for :

1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? And is it unambiguous?

The tag is ambiguous. The use of a semicolon depends on the language under discussion. It could also be about semicolons in Unicode, or other character encoding schemes.

2. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site?

Partially, in the sense that many programming languages have some rules for semicolons. But this is covered by the tags for these languages. Or, if it is about how some encoding scheme uses semicolons, it should be the tag for that particular coding scheme. But questions about semicolons themselves aren't on-topic.

3. Does the tag add any meaningful information to the post?

No. A question about the use of semicolons in Java is a Java question. A question about the use of semicolons in JSON is a JSON question. And so on.

4. Does it mean the same thing in all common contexts?

No. Ok, it means "semicolon", but as discussed, the meaning of this differs per language.

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    That sounds reasonable, one thing that speaks for the syntax tag is that it tells you something valuable when it's used in combination with a language tag, but that's a discussion we shouldn't have here I suppose.
    – overactor
    Commented Feb 19, 2016 at 9:04
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    @overactor If the meaning of a tag depends on other tags, it is a meta-tag. But we can have that discussion on the linked burninate-request for syntax. Commented Feb 19, 2016 at 9:08
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    Unicode; Ooh, the Greek question mark!
    – Mr Lister
    Commented Feb 19, 2016 at 19:41
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    @S.L.Barth [semicolon] doesn't even really depend consistently on other tags to derive its meaning. Forth, Factor, and friends use it to end a word definition. OCaml and J use it like most C-style languages use a comma. I see this as not much different than a [space] tag in a linguistics SE site. That space could be a paragraph separator, a word separator, or even to optionally delimit a number from its abbreviated unit of measure. And such a tag is just noise. Sounds burninatible enough to me.
    – Claudia
    Commented Feb 21, 2016 at 5:08
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    Another set of criteria is based on top users: are there any who are consistently answering questions in the tag. The answer's "not really". Mr Skeet shows up with 7 answers and 39 up-votes; CMS has 3 answers and 426 up-votes. But there's no real expert showing up. And there've not been many answers in the last 30 days, or many questions, come to that. All the top askers have a single question (one with 169 up-votes — truly remarkable!). This information also indicates that the tag should be burninated. These criteria were suggested to me by Bill the Lizard back in his days as moderator. Commented Feb 21, 2016 at 5:34
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    I have an incredibly large issue when I see a Python question about semicolons... We don't use semi colons! Chances are though, if the question is about a bug and the issue is a semicolon, it should probably be closed as a typographical error anyway then.
    – Zizouz212
    Commented Feb 21, 2016 at 16:27
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    I wouldn't reference a burniation-request from two years ago with 2 upvotes as a reason not to merge. [Syntax] will stay. A merge sounds reasonable. Commented Feb 22, 2016 at 0:03
  • @AngeloFuchs It's also status-declined.
    – RamenChef
    Commented Mar 23, 2019 at 19:50
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I started writing an answer in order to defend the tag, as it had a very specific syntactic usage but I had to change my mind multiple times. I feel that this tag has to be burninated. Along with the reasons that SL Barth has already mentioned in their answer, I found a couple of other issues (tag-smells) which relate to the tag not being used in the proper sense:

Now coming to the retags:

  • We need to create a new tag for the JavaScript's Automatic Semicolon Insertion as mentioned by Bergi in the comments, who is a top user (and has a gold badge) in that tag.

    I do think we could need a tag for automatic semicolon insertion in JS.

  • Most of the questions where it is related to the syntactical usage of the semicolon tag can be tagged with instead. I agree with Angelo's comment on Barth's post)

  • In many questions, has been used just because the question contains something very vaguely related to semicolons. Like CSV file with semicolon delimiter, or semicolon in a string, and so on. Here the tag is not necessary at all and can be removed.

  • In the questions also tagged with a few major languages, apart from the positively scored questions, most of the others are related to typographical error of adding/not adding a semicolon. These can just be closed as "No longer reproducible"

I also don't feel that should be merged with , at the end. The tag should be just removed.

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    I agree; this is a bit similar to ampersand tag: & is a command separator, so questions about this case should be tagged syntax, like semicolon and questions that just contain it or have a title like Why can't I put an ampersand/semicolon here?, etc. should not be tagged at all. So, I think that the semicolon tag should be burninated. Commented Mar 22, 2019 at 8:12
  • Why should there be a separate tag for automatic semicolon insertion? As long as no other common languages have it, it's exclusively a part of Javascript and Javascript syntax.
    – Zev Spitz
    Commented Mar 23, 2019 at 21:48
  • @Zev creating tags for standard concepts even if they relate to just one programming language is fine. See gil, which is just for python.
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Mar 24, 2019 at 2:36
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has been burninated.

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Thanks to everyone who participated.

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  • I think that the stats counting is grossly underestimating the effort I've put in — it says '7' when I looked just now, but I think it is more like "in excess of 50" (and I think that's still understating it — I just counted 87 edits where I'd used the comment "Semicolon tag is being burninated" or equivalent wording, though I accept that could be off by a couple). Commented Mar 25, 2019 at 7:53
  • There were some issues last week with it syncing up with chat. It now shows that you did 83.. it's maintained by Rob (another mod), I'll ask them if the issue was fixed. Thanks for reporting it. :)
    – Bhargav Rao Mod
    Commented Mar 25, 2019 at 14:05
  • @JonathanLeffler That was my bad. The application experienced a few authentication issues - I've got it to re-process the burnination so your statistics should be accurate now
    – Rob Mod
    Commented Mar 26, 2019 at 0:21
  • @Rob — it’s seemed to be up to date for a while now, but was not when I commented late last night. Thanks for resolving the problems. And thanks to Bhargav for relaying the info. Commented Mar 26, 2019 at 0:25

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