Over the holidays I have reviewed over 300 kotlin tagged questions with my team to bring them up to date as Kotlin has left alphas and betas and moves towards release of 1.0. We want content to be correct for the current state of Kotlin.
During this time, probably 95% (or more) of all content on the kotlin tag was me, as one author. New answers, edits, comments, and self-answered questions for idiomatic items. All with more current, accurate, detailed, and thorough content.
So, people helping in this effort and reviewing content are watching the tag, and also the chat rooms where edits on these tags are noted. They vote when they see the posts come in as they agree. And they agree often, maybe because I am one of the longest users of Kotlin and I am writing the best content.
Then, one of the Kotlin contributors received an email, which he forwarded to me:
Hello,
I'm writing in reference to your Stack Overflow account:
https://stackoverflow.com/users/1215902/alexander-eliseyev
We recently noticed a substantial number of votes on your account to or from specific users. While we encourage everyone to upvote great posts, the motivation for doing so needs to be anchored in the merits of the post, not the person who wrote it. This is just a reminder to please refrain from targeting specific users when voting.
Stack Exchange works by ensuring that the best information rises to the top. Voting specifically for content that benefits your friends, family or colleagues unfairly skews that system, and continuing to do so can result in a lengthy suspension for all involved.
Please note that the offending votes have been invalidated. The system has processes in place to detect various types of voting between groups of users, so if you know anyone who may be voting for your stuff in kind, please ask them to refrain before the system detects such activity and takes similar actions on their account. If by chance you created separate accounts for the purposes of voting for another, please send me a link to those profiles so I can merge them without further incident.
This is often just a simple misunderstanding, so no harm done. But continued activity of this sort can result in a prolonged suspension for all involved, so please let me know if you have any questions regarding this policy.
Regards, meagar Stack Overflow moderator
Sorry, but moderator meagar didn't do their homework. (they and others did do their homework, just didn't have all the info) If in 2 weeks I went from 0 reputation on the tag to 2nd all time for the tag, and all content on the tag was from me during that time, and people watch the tag because we ALL AGREED TO HELP MAKE THIS TAG BETTER OVER THIS TIME FRAME, then we should not be punished for improving content for the tag and Stack Overflow.
People voted mostly for me, because there was only me to vote for.
The votes should be reinstated (the receiver of the email has asked for that as well), and nothing should be noted on our accounts as a negative since this is a group effort to review and improve content and not some voting scheme. The quality of the posts and answers should make that clear. People are helping the review by watching changes and voting to help push down old content that is bad/outdated and bring up new good content.
Examples like this:
- In Kotlin, what is the idiomatic way to deal with nullable values, referencing or converting them
- https://stackoverflow.com/a/34536070/3679676
- https://stackoverflow.com/a/34546161/3679676
- https://stackoverflow.com/a/34498862/3679676
- https://stackoverflow.com/a/34538016/3679676
- https://stackoverflow.com/a/34518585/3679676
or from a few minutes ago:
And I'm sure moderators can see the hundreds of changes I've made in a short time.
How do I get this resolved?
Update for January 28 after voting reversal:
Looking at the accepted answers and distribution of users for the Kotlin
tag which is what I mostly only work under... (note votes are all votes, up and down)
In January the distribution of posts with accepted answers and the owner of the accepted answer is:
Answerer | Number of Posts Accepted |
% of Posts | Avg Answer per Post |
Avg Post View Count |
Votes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
3679676 (me) | 14 | 25.45% | 1 | 236 | 150 |
155213 (miensol) | 8 | 14.55% | 1 | 65 | 34 |
147024 (yole) | 7 | 12.73% | 1 | 70 | 38 |
2196460 (hotkey) | 4 | 7.27% | 1 | 87 | 24 |
615306 (kirill) | 2 | 3.64% | 3 | 83 | 9 |
1538877 (IRus) | 2 | 3.64% | 1 | 53 | 8 |
18 others | 18 (1 per) | 1.82% each | 1.44 | 38..414 (62 med) |
5.3 avg (5 med) |
And for December:
Answerer | Number of Posts Accepted |
% of Posts | Avg Answer per Post |
Avg Post View Count |
Votes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
3679676 (me) | 13 | 20.31% | 2 | 300 | 87 |
3255152 | 8 | 12.50% | 1 | 101 | 25 |
2196460 | 3 | 4.69% | 1 | 85 | 21 |
3144601 | 3 | 4.69% | 1 | 109 | 10 |
3699808 | 3 | 4.69% | 1 | 95 | 16 |
288456 | 2 | 3.13% | 1 | 41 | 5 |
615306 | 2 | 3.13% | 1 | 54 | 17 |
885028 | 2 | 3.13% | 2 | 368 | 10 |
28 others | 28 votes, 1 per | 1.56% each | 1.36 | 30..462 (79.5 med) |
So I had 27 accepted answers in 2 months which was 45% of accepted answers for the Kotlin tag in that time period and also 45% of all post views with accepted answers were for these posts. Most of these posts averaged 1 or 2 answers, meaning it was likely that I was the only answer, the first answer, or competing with only 1 answer. And as accepted answer and with more votes, my answer likely is appearing first. Therefore it is likely people that monitor the tag would always be voting for me 45% of the time when viewing posts that had accepted answers.
So how would you detect serial voting in that case?
Looking at all answers, in January I was 33% of all answers and 42% of all votes, for questions that had 54% of the views. So 1 out of 3 answers would be mine, and people were voting slightly higher than that ratio. In December 24% of all answers and 29% of all votes, for questions that had 50% of the views. And again for both months there were average of 2 answers per question in which I answered, not a lot of alternatives for voters. So 1 out of 4 answers would be mine, and people were voting about that ratio.
Again for all answers, I see that I had in January, 14 accepted votes, 232 upMod, 8 downMod, 2 undelete, 2 moderatorReview. December 13 accepted, 104 upMod, 4 downMod, 2 ModeratorReview. So I guess that means 4 answers were flagged for moderator review at some point.
Doesn't seem like the data means much of anything other than what was said before. Maybe moderators see other patterns, but given the attention to my posts and the compressed time frame, it seems like a silly reversal of 10% of my total reputation gained from writing the best answers, correcting old errors, and doing the grunge work of reviewing 500+ posts.