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For the first time ever, I downvoted an answer and left a comment - the answer was simply, numerically incorrect. After weeks, this user has not replied, so I looked at their Profile... 1 Question, 2 Answers, and: they have not been seen in over 2 years. Yet at the top it says "Top 29% overall". Leaving aside how someone could be in the top third with so little participation, why is any sort of calculation done on their rank if they are apparently not participating anymore?

To simplify the question: shouldn't standing only be displayed for people who have at least visited the site within the past year? "Emeritus" users don't need to appear in the current stats.

I see that I made a mistake in my reading of the thing in the Answer that I thought was incorrect. I have acknowledged that. Not sure if I can rescind downvote. Still not clear how someone can be a Top x% Overall if they are not here anymore...

Another point (added later): If my comments go to a user who is not active, how can they respond or I get any feedback about the point in question? There is not curation of Answers where a user is no longer active.

Update: On the Buddhism SE, when I look at a user, it says something more clear, like "top 10% this year". Why does that site include a timeframe when the other site does not?

Update to Update: I see that if someone has not been active for a year, it says "Overall". If they have been active in this past year, it says, "This Year". That is understandable, but I don't like things that slide around and reformulate. My experience has mostly been on a site (Buddhism) that is recent and so everyone I encountered was active recently. I never "logged" the wording per se, I just read it. So when the meaning changed, I was thrown. I don't like things like this. Ribbon anyone?

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    What would be the advantage of this? Those rankings have no impact on the site functionality.
    – resueman
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:35
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    If he's in the 29% of all time for rep, why should we not show it?
    – Patrice
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:36
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    The ordinary user profile page doesn't use the term "rank", so what are you objecting to? It just says "top NN% overall". You don't see the word "rank" until you click through to the league listing, where it's joined by the words "all time".
    – jscs
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:44
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    But again, "he IS in the top 29% overall". In no way does "29% overall" implies ANYTHING but "29% overall". I don't see how come you think there should be a time based thing to an overall rating....
    – Patrice
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:46
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    WHY? He has 10 times your rep (not a complaint about you, just an observation that, numerically, his OVERALL rating is higher than yours). Whether he's active or not is irrelevant. If Jon Skeet left for 3 years, he'd still be THE TOP SO USER. why should we take that away?
    – Patrice
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:46
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    Someone who isn't active can't have more rep than any number of people on the site? That's all the "Top" means there. You came here to raise a point that it's not right, but you don't seem to have tried to figure out what it meant first. If Jon Skeet quit using SO tomorrow and never returned, would he no longer count as the user with more rep than anyone on the site? His account would still exist and still have that rep, after all.
    – Kendra
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:47
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    And to be honest, that is why I downvoted your post- No research effort. You don't in any way appear to have tried to understand how the system works before saying it doesn't, in this case.
    – Kendra
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:48
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    "Emeritus" users don't need to appear in the current stats - They do if the statistic is based solely on reputation.
    – BSMP
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:49
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    Their answers are still on this site, to be relied upon. Their account is still there, and still has reputation associated with it. If the answers get to the point they are no longer correct in any way, they will likely be downvoted, the account will begin to lose rep, and things will begin to align the way you're advocating here.
    – Kendra
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:51
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    Are you relying on the person or their answers? Because their answers are still there. Nov 12, 2015 at 18:51
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    That's a myopic view. Nov 12, 2015 at 18:53
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    The answer isn't even wrong. Go read the comment after yours. Nov 12, 2015 at 18:55
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    ... funny how we were all just talking about Skeet and he shows up on the answer :p
    – Patrice
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:56
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    @nocomprende and HOW would you show something is wrong for posterity? By downvoting my friend. If the answer really is wrong, over time, enough downvotes will pop on it that it won't be worth points. Now, you are against it, 100 users are for it... Stack is community moderated website. Not saying you are wrong (I didn't really look at the Q&A pair enough to make a judgement), but so far the community seems one sided
    – Patrice
    Nov 12, 2015 at 18:57
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    How much do you want me to participate every day before you start deleting my old, highly-voted content on the assumption that it's probably bitrotted and no longer applicable? Do I need to answer a question every day, even if there are no new good ones I can add anything helpful to?
    – Wooble
    Nov 12, 2015 at 19:39

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The top percentile number does not mean a wholeheckofalot, you get to be in the 50% percentile with only 21 rep. A side effect of SO having so many users that never contribute anything.

But he did, he earned most of his rep (~990) with an answer he posted 7 years ago. The Q+A is canonical and ranks as the top Google hit for anybody that queries "what is a race condition?". His answer was viewed about 200,000 times. Perhaps the reason you found it in the first place.

This is the kind of Q+A that is strongly pursued as a goal of SO, both by its founders and its site members. It can be extraordinarily helpful to anybody that has the same or similar question. And everybody else, the question will never have to be asked again. That a contributor continues to earn reputation from a post that's proven to be reputable is entirely by design.

And there is no obvious reason to assume that the post will diminish in value any time soon. If you see a need for an update or correction then you can edit the post. Or propose an edit if you don't have enough rep.

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  • I didn't know about editing someone's answer, or proposing an edit. I commented, and after a while, nothing happened. It was then that I saw the person was not active. So, I didn't know how they could answer questions or make corrections. This is why I think a wiki is better: someone is curating.
    – user4624979
    Nov 12, 2015 at 20:14
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    If the Top % is now meaningless. perhaps it should not be so prominent in the User Profile? I think that Last Seen should be the most prominent thing there.
    – user4624979
    Nov 12, 2015 at 20:18
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    I think top% is a fun stat to have. last seen isn't that interesting, because i can care less who posted the content; anyone on the site can suggest changes to it. We don't need the original author to keep the post up to date.
    – Kevin B
    Nov 12, 2015 at 21:09
  • Buddhism SE says something like: "top 10% this year". More clear, in my opinion.
    – user4624979
    Nov 20, 2015 at 1:46
  • ... or post a competing answer.
    – phoog
    Mar 13, 2017 at 17:28
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If you want to see the reputation of only the people who have been active in the past year, you can create a query in the Data Explorer.

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  • You can fork one of mine and produce something that will work: meta.stackexchange.com/a/268067/158100
    – rene
    Nov 12, 2015 at 19:50
  • I just looked at what was shown on the User Profile. Nothing told me that it was clickable with other stats available. I just assumed that if it was right there in big letters at the top, that it would have a commonsense meaning. To me, a lapsed user cannot be in the Top anything. They are gone.
    – user4624979
    Nov 12, 2015 at 20:20
  • Nothing told me that it was clickable @nocomprende - The stat text is in a button, similar to the "Questions, Tags, Users..." navigation at the top of the page. Most text in a box and/or colored background is going to be a link.
    – BSMP
    Nov 12, 2015 at 21:39
  • that it would have a commonsense meaning. - @nocomprende - I get that you disagree with the SO engineers and community about what the number should mean. It doesn't look like there's anything either side can do about that though.
    – BSMP
    Nov 12, 2015 at 21:44
  • Buddhism SE says something like: "top 10% this year". More clear, in my opinion.
    – user4624979
    Nov 20, 2015 at 1:46
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User profiles display their percentile rank based on the best ranking available between several different time periods: current week, month, quarter, year, and all time. No preference is given to longer periods, so if those are even slightly less favorable, they won't be shown. The ranking displayed always includes the time period.

From this we can deduce that it's a minor ego-boosting frill on a user's profile, showing them in (more or less) their best light as far as reputation distributions go. That's all.

I don't really know why someone's past efforts should be discounted simply because they're no longer active, but in any case, it should be fairly clear if someone's profile is resting on its laurels, since it will fall back to the Overall ranking. Anyone that has anything else is almost certainly still going strong. And, of course, if you look at the leaderboards (linked in the rank displayed on the profile, as well as from the Users page), which is the logical place to go if you're really serious about respecting only those who are actively helping the site right this second, the views will only include those within a given time period.

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  • Thank you. I understand what is going on now that I poked around a bit. And all the descriptions by many people in the know are great. The point was, it was a lot of hidden functionality that I knew nothing about. What was on the surface appeared very much simpler, and I didn't give it any thought. When complex things are hidden behind a simple facade, it opens the door to people getting very confused. New users who just jump in and get started can get thrown by things changing that they didn't know about. For this reason, I have always preferred simple programs, languages and interfaces.
    – user4624979
    Nov 20, 2015 at 12:54

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