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As discussed in this meta question, I'm asking for

  1. Moderator support: Please rename to in order to eliminate future confusion of with .
  2. Community support: There's about 1,300 question tagged , but if I remove questions from these results that are very unlikely to be about radio transmissions (but about ), I end up with only about 400. Which says: There's about 1000 questions in need of retagging. I can't possibly do this alone – if anyone of you could pick a + or or or combo and retag a few questions, that'd be awesome.
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    Can we also remind people that when re-tagging, they should fix all the other issues that they can, not just spam the main page with tag edits?
    – theB
    Oct 19, 2015 at 15:37
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    Editors should have 2k, and maybe should rate-limit themselves, say 20 per day like in a review queue. I'd let the question hang around for a few days before doing anything. Oct 19, 2015 at 15:49
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    Yes, we need to stress that we don't want to overload the review queue with bulk edits that shouldn't be done by users < 2k anyway. Please don't attempt to edit these questions if you have < 2k rep, it is counter-productive and there are more than enough users > 2k around to help.
    – user4639281
    Oct 19, 2015 at 15:52
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    I know "radio-transmission" was suggested on the previous question, but I think that the verb "transmission" may be taken as being too restrictive. What about radio reception? Or radio interference? Or optimization of radio telescope data streams? (I have no idea what I'm talking about...) The point is, the tag suggestion seems narrower than I think you intend it to be.
    – Mogsdad
    Oct 19, 2015 at 18:09
  • @Mogsdad which is why I suggested "radio-frequency" in the answer to the attached. It is a more catch-all term, and used in the telecom industry (at least in the USA side of the world). Oct 19, 2015 at 18:26
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    @Mogsdad: radio currently refers to wireless transmission of data, following the tag description; I really tried to make the minimal semantic change. For special things like processing of radio signals in software, one should consider tagging with software-defined-radio, or signal-processing. For more signal-theoretical, less programmatical questions, one shouldn't use SO, but e.g. dsp.stackexchange.com. Oct 19, 2015 at 18:27
  • @psubsee2003: I don't fully agree -- "frequency" is a mathematical/physical property of a signal. The point is that questions asked about wireless comm' on SO are probably pretty ignorant of the physical properties of transmission; if they were concerned with the frequency of a transmission, they'd be off-topic on SO (because they'd belong on DSP.se, physics.SE, electronics.SE). Oct 19, 2015 at 18:30
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    @psubsee2003: I'd rather see tags describing the application of RF; e.g. ham-radio, nfc, adhoc-wireless-networking as "specializations" of radio-transmission then to pick one word out of the "semantic" complex that is radio technology. Oct 19, 2015 at 18:33
  • Usage tags make sense - consider radio topics on mobile phones, like this query. (Another bowl of semantic soup.) Topics like internet radio streaming, integration with cellular, general telephony, power management, media formats, and so on. Some of it is related to radio technology, so application tags should take that into account.
    – Mogsdad
    Oct 19, 2015 at 19:24
  • @psubsee2003 As one who designs radio receivers, I disagree. RF describes a specific band of the e-m spectrum, not the concept of transmitting or receiving signals in that band. If you were asking a question about waveguides, antenna design, interference, reflection, or something like that, then maybe RF would be appropriate (since it actually has more to do with the physical properties of the wave,) but I expect that most tags where RF would really be the appropriate tag name would belong better at EE or physics (or maybe DSP) than SO.
    – reirab
    Oct 20, 2015 at 5:01

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Queries that can help with any community involvement:

Retag these questions with , replacing and :

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  • If someone stumbles upon this in 2020 - radio + button have an upward trend despite best efforts, please assist in cleaning up if you can ( until they are close to 0, they will spring back up ) Jul 24, 2020 at 13:13
  • @OlegValter the fastest way to fix that is to burninate button
    – Braiam
    Jul 24, 2020 at 20:57
  • @Braiam - there is tag cleanup and then there is a drastic measure of burning a tag with 34K questions and decent track record, I am not comfortable with that - if you think that's necessary, you can start a meta request. Jul 24, 2020 at 21:26
  • @Braiam - did you talk about the other tag then (I am unsure how to interpret "to burninate button" then)? stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/button Or was this about the radio? Jul 24, 2020 at 21:28
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    @OlegValter I was on the frequently asked view, which has less questions.
    – Braiam
    Jul 24, 2020 at 21:32
  • @Braiam - oh, that explains why you only saw 3K of them :) With 34K I don't think it is currently worth the discussion ( although both radio and button could benefit from being split into more contextually defined versions, both are not even programming concepts per se ). That said, finishing whart Mogsdad started might be a starting point in making these tags less broad (an extensive analysis is needed here, I think) Jul 24, 2020 at 21:36
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Honestly, I think 'radio' really is the correct name for this tag, though the confusion with radio buttons is indeed unfortunate.

or would probably be the closest alternative names for this tag, but neither term is really sufficiently broad to describe the entire concept (neither is even a superset of the other, for that matter.)

I don't think the other suggestion of would work well, as that term refers specifically to the band within the electromagnetic spectrum ranging from 1 Hz - 3 THz. While the term is used somewhat more broadly than that colloquially, it's still mostly just used in discussions related to the physical properties of a wave, which will usually be off-topic for SO and more appropriate for EE or physics.

I would also note that, unlike with most retag requests, there is no ambiguity with the meaning of the term 'radio,' nor is the term (IMO) too broad. The problem is just that a style of buttons happened to be named after the fact that they used to be common on analog consumer radio receivers decades ago. No one actually calls radio buttons 'radios,' nor would any who knows what they are think that they have anything to do with the concept of radio (aside from the aforementioned etymology.) The problem here just seems to be misuse of the tagging UI, not actual ambiguity or over-broadness of the term as with most retag requests.

Perhaps a warning along the lines of what is suggested here would be appropriate for this tag, i.e. something like:

This tag should only be used for questions regarding radio. For questions regarding GUI controls, use instead.

While this could be placed in the wiki excerpt, something more prominent would be nice.

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    I think 'radio' really is the correct name for this tag I couldn't agree more; however, I don't believe in tag excerpt warnings. The vast majority of the mis-taggers simply didn't bother to read a single word of the excerpt. Oct 20, 2015 at 9:35
  • @MarcusMüller Right, which is why I think something more prominent would be good. Maybe display the warning in a red or yellow background text box that appears near the tags list, for example. It could also perhaps have a condition such as not being displayed for high-rep users and/or users who have used the radio tag before, for example.
    – reirab
    Oct 20, 2015 at 14:37
  • what about radio-signal? Though, the point of changing it is to stop radio from being used improperly, and even if the new name isn't perfect, it will still promote proper tagging.
    – Reed
    Oct 20, 2015 at 16:19
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    @Jakar: radio-signal is worse; everything I said about radio-frequency applies to that, too. Oct 20, 2015 at 16:50
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    @Jakar Agreed with Marcus regarding radio-signal.
    – reirab
    Oct 20, 2015 at 16:57

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