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If I vote to close a question as a duplicate, an auto comment is placed on the question along the lines of

Possible duplicate of {question link}

This is a great feature!

  1. It immediately gives the question author some feedback that there may already be an answer to their question
  2. It saves multiple people commenting along those lines
  3. It hints that the question may not be worth answering at this time, until it is confirmed or denied that this is an actual duplicate

If I vote to close a question as "Off topic > Questions seeking debugging help [snip] should include a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example.", the question asker does not see this useful information and link until more people have voted. This gets frustrating - I wish the user could see the link to a MCVE earlier, I'm fairly sure it would help more people get an answer to their question quicker.


I propose that the first time somebody votes to close with this reason

Questions seeking debugging help ("why isn't this code working?") must include the desired behavior, a specific problem or error and the shortest code necessary to reproduce it in the question itself. Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. See: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example.

It should immediately generate a comment with a shorter version of the above reason:

This question is missing a Minimal, Complete, verifiable example. You may get a quicker answer if you update your question with this information

(Or something more succinct, but along those lines.)

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    Cool idea. But are you fine with implicitly raising the reputation requirement to 50 (for comments) instead of just 15 to flag?
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:27
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    It's the same. Flagging for duplicate closure currently requires 50 reputation (because of the auto-comment). The others only require 15 rep because they don't (currently) leave any comment.
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:29
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    I mean I'm not sure how much closure flagging 15-49 rep users do, but it's just a consideration we have to make.
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:30
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    In that case i'd be in favour of the same treatment for this. Low rep users probably dont get the need for MCVE any more than they would get the need for dupe flagging /opinion
    – Jamiec
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:30
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    dup? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/256808/…
    – CRABOLO
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:31
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    Totally support this. Here is an almost identical request I made on MSE: All close votes should add an auto-generated comment (shameless self-plug)
    – user000001
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:39
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    I don't know how I feel about this. It seems convenient in some cases, but sometimes I just don't want to get involved, just vote to close and move on. Now I'd have to remember to refresh the page and delete the autocomment.
    – davidism
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:55
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    I probably leave a comment along the lines of "Please edit to include a [mcve]." more often than I don't, but I'd still like to be in control of that comment.
    – davidism
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:59
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    @davidism I think you're on to something! Personalized auto-comments for close votes! /s
    – CubeJockey
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 15:59
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    @davidism so how do you feel about the autocomment for dupes? Do you go back and delete these?
    – Jamiec
    Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 16:01
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    I thought that poster of question with close votes already getting some UI feedback like "you post is about to be closed due ..." - can't verify, but I seem to remember people complaining about such UI when there are only 1-3 votes... Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 16:01
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    Note that users must earn the privilege to see close votes on their own questions. So, to be consistent, we'd only leave these autocomments for users with at least 250 rep. (Personally I think all users should be able to see close votes, but that's been debated several times.) Commented Sep 25, 2015 at 20:45
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    No, I think we should show the comments to everyone - 1-rep users especially fail to post MVCEs. Restricting it to 250+ would make it useless.
    – nobody
    Commented Sep 26, 2015 at 13:09
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    Dupe closures are a little different to other closures, though, so it's natural that they get slightly different handling. Being closed as a dupe doesn't mean the question itself is necessarily bad (although I admit that it does often mean that the OP didn't make an adequate search before asking). Dupe questions act as alternative portals to the dupe target, which can be handy. It's the answers to dupe questions that are the problem, since they get scattered all over the place, which is why dupes should be closed (with an appropriate target) ASAP.
    – PM 2Ring
    Commented Sep 26, 2015 at 13:57
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    @Jamiec Are you familiar with SOCVR and cv-pls?
    – Siguza
    Commented Sep 26, 2015 at 17:28

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No, I don't think so.

I've seen a few people posting these copy/pastaen of closure reasons as comments, and I consider it noise. If enough people agree with the commenter's opinion of off-topicness, the question will be put on hold and the reason will be automatically displayed.

I see no reason to spam the same text in the comments, especially before such consensus is reached.


  1. It immediately gives the question author some feedback that there may already be an answer to their question

They get that the very moment consensus is reached. The OP can wait another two bloody minutes, surely? Why is everyone in such a rush nowadays, gees.

  1. It saves multiple people commenting along those lines

Not really; nobody should be doing it.

  1. It hints that the question may not be worth answering at this time, until it is confirmed or denied that this is an actual duplicate

That's silly. If you, as a potential answerer, believe that the question is on-topic, answer it. If you don't, don't. If you're making decisions on whether to answer based solely on what some other person thinks, then you're just a sheep and frankly shouldn't be making any decisions at all.

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    Wait...what? You've commented on 3 bullet points that were not part of this proposal. Those three points were me opinionating on why I think the existing functionality is a good thing. They're opinion at most. The bit below all that is where I proposed a similar thing for another close reason
    – Jamiec
    Commented Sep 26, 2015 at 18:58
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    @Jamiec: I realise that. It's an addendum. Feel free to ignore everything underneath the horizontal separator if you can't mentally distinguish the points. :) Commented Sep 26, 2015 at 19:35
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    So... you flag the Possible duplicate of.. comments as To Chatty (aka 'Noise')?
    – AStopher
    Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:05
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    @cybermonkey: No. (a) Moderators have much more important things to do. (b) Here we are talking about adding loads more such messages, not removing the trickle that are already there, notwithstanding your attempt at a slippery slope argument. (c) I would probably support a proposal to remove the feature that generates them, though. Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:24
  • Well, if someone's already flagged a question, then another message doesn't need to be generated. I support this proposal, but also agree that without modification it will clutter up the chat.
    – AStopher
    Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:28
  • @cybermonkey: Comments are explicitly not a "chat". Anyway I honestly don't see why anyone would support this. I don't get it. There is already a big closure banner. Why do we need the same text again, in a manual form, not controlled by the state of the post (they'll still be there after reopening!) and displayed before consensus? It's obviously nonsense, from where I'm sitting. Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:37
  • This is for voting (before it's closed). Users without the CV privilege such as myself cannot see close votes on questions (that are not my own), thus such a feature would be helpful to correctly judge the question. Of cause (as with the Duplicate of.. comment), the comments will be automatically purged if the question is closed.
    – AStopher
    Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:48
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    @cybermonkey: "Judge" it how? Judge that other people have voted to close it? What does that achieve? If you do not have the CV privilege then I see absolutely no reason why you should see that some people are voting to close until a consensus has been reached and the question is actually closed, at which point the banner goes up. It really sounds like you are trying to "judge" a question based on whether some other random people have cast a so-far-uncorroborated vote on it, which I find to be extraordinarily dangerous behaviour. Why can't you make up your own mind? Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:49
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    Actually it sounds like you're trying to "workaround" your lack of CV privileges so that you can see vote counts (where at present you can't), but you're suggesting a messy, hacky, texty, noisy workaround be implemented in order to accomplish that. Not good :( Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:51
  • It wouldn't be that noisy IMHO.
    – AStopher
    Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:53
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    More noisy than no comments at all, and serving absolutely no good purpose whatsoever. To me, this is an example of a self-evidently bad idea, but apparently I'm in the minority there, which I simply cannot understand. I've addressed and debunked all the "arguments" put forth so far in its favour, but still the downvotes come roaring in. It doesn't make any sense. Commented Sep 27, 2015 at 11:54
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    I actually do find them to be noise as well. They really irritate me.
    – user541686
    Commented Sep 28, 2015 at 6:23
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    Interesting voting score on this question +16/-21
    – Emond
    Commented Sep 28, 2015 at 8:17
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    I agree that this adds noise which need not be there until the question is actually closed. Quite often, proposed duplicates are not actually duplicates at all, as the person who dropped the comment either didn't read the question, or didn't read the duplicate. Meaning the comment is not just noise, it is also incorrect. I am all for removing "possible duplicate" comments until the post is actually closed.
    – Lundin
    Commented Sep 28, 2015 at 8:20

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