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I stumbled upon an account where the reputation history looked like this:

Association bonus and reversal

Due to a barrage of serial upvotes the user received the Association bonus for crossing the 200 reputation mark. The voting reversal script detected (most) of the serial votes and corrected for that, hence the -70. It didn't reversed the association bonus though, effectively giving this user 100 rep based on a doubtful action.

There are some other posts about association bonuses get awarded in corner case situations, like:

but I couldn't find any post that describes/notices the above mentioned scenario. I had an exchange with a moderator (who shall remain anonymous because it was Martijn Pieters) who handed me this advice:

the 100 points of the bonus is not something we can easily do anything about, is peanuts compared to what cheaters are after, and generally not worth our time worrying over

... but that was after I already raised a moderator flag based on if you find something suspicious, please flag.

This post merely serves to be picked up when others search for this phenomenon to get them decide if a flag is worth the effort. But feel free to share your thoughts if indeed this is considered peanuts and doesn't need handling (either by an enhancement in the voting reversal script or by flags from the community).

Thanks gnat

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    That +100 is more than enough to vote for posts from other accounts, and create even more sock puppets. Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:08
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    Isn't the association bonus gained for having a certain amount of rep on other sites? So even if their rep has been removed here, they still (presumably) qualify for it?
    – TZHX
    Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:13
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    @TZHX that is true but not in this case...the association bonus gained here is distributed across other SE accounts...
    – rene
    Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:22
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    It leaves a bad taste for sure, but if I read the answer offered by he who should not be named (Martijn Pieters) in that first link, its a clear case of sh1te happens. But if this is the nature of the user in question, then I do believe that eventually enough misconduct will lead to more satisfying results. In other words: the problem will resolve itself.
    – Gimby
    Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:31
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    @TZHX you get the bonus on all SE sites, including the one that first broke 200 rep. So the bonus is wrong if the same site that broke 200 also had the serial voting.
    – ryanyuyu
    Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:43
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    @ryanyuyu agh... I didn't realise that. I thought it only applied to the other sites, sorry.
    – TZHX
    Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:45
  • @S.L.Barth Only the main user of a sock network can keep the association bonus. For the sock puppets it doesn't matter as they're deleted anyway once discovered. And if a user abuses the association bonus to break some more rules they're very likely to just be outright deleted or suspended for a long time. Commented Aug 12, 2015 at 12:51
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    It seems this would be easily fixed by waiting to assign the association bonus until after the subroutine that reverses serial upvotes has run.
    – user3995702
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 1:19
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    @WilliamKappler The association bonus is given as soon as you log in. It's not delayed until a later recalculation.
    – user149341
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 2:04
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    @WilliamKappler but that delay would prevent one of the main purposes of this bonus: Ability to sign in and do things. If i see wrong (or inexact) answer on site I technically never signed to, I want to comment immediately. If I'm made to wait, I'll probably go away and forget it.
    – Mołot
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 11:16
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    @Mołot The delay could be added only to the first assignment of it - the one which is transferable to other sites. Basically, accounts are flagged as having that bonus. If they are, then when you get a new account, you get the bonus right away. However, to get the flag, you have to wait until after the serial upvote check. Seems common sense.
    – user3995702
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 16:18
  • @WilliamKappler Really, it seems like a lot of unnecessary complexity to solve something that hasn't really been proven to be a problem. Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 17:26
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    @ChrisHayes It's not particularly complex, the system already works as I described as far as I can tell with the exception of when the bonus flag is set. Moving it to after the reversal would be trivial. Further, as S.L.Barth notes, there is a potential for exploitation.
    – user3995702
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 17:34
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    @WilliamKappler There's no such thing as "trivial" when you're talking about someone else's codebase that you've never seen. And again, "potential" for exploitation isn't a high enough bar to change code that's working great 99.9% of the time. Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 17:43
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    @ChrisHayes Badges already work the way I suggest. If it's more than a few lines changed to implement, then there's probably bigger problems with how it is currently implemented.
    – user3995702
    Commented Aug 13, 2015 at 23:50

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