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I have come to the conclusion that downvotes are negative, punishing, impolite, destructive and destroying.

I want to support a positive, constructive, nourishing and uplifting atmosphere.

Therefore, I want to undo all the downvotes that I have cast in the past. However, this is only possible for posts which have been edited. Is there a way to revert downvotes?

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    Unless you have 2000 rep the edit will need to be reviewed, also downvotes are good and important for the site when used properly.
    – Joe W
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:46
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    at 703 rep, your edits need to be checked and reviewed by people. If there's something to edit on the post, have fun. Don't just edit to let you undownvote. And as Joe is pointing out, DVs are important to keep the site its quality...
    – Patrice
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:46
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    If you want to be more positive, constructive, nourishing and uplifting you can do much better things: Put bounties on good answers/questions you see. (And please continue to downvote where appropriate).
    – false
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:49
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    @Deduplicator Of course it is. The world is a much better place when everyone is told to use information that doesn't work, is unclear, is dangerous or actively harmful when used, etc. When people are only directed to useful content that works, is clear, isn't dangerous or harmful to use, etc. they end up being far less happy users.
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:49
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    Please don't give up on down votes - they're a really important signal to both the system as a whole and the OP. They let us hide dangerously wrong information in a way that comments alone can't and they make it clear that this is not just another forum to dump terrible questions on.
    – Flexo Mod
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:49
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    That's a horribly misguided manifesto you've written there. I will readily assume you're honestly trying to improve the site. But this is not the way.
    – Bart
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:51
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    @SQLPolice HOW? you want the handful of experienced users who care about quality to go and comment to help all the help vamps who post anything on this site? Your idea, while honestly praiseworthy, doesn't scale to Stack Overflow's size...
    – Patrice
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:52
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    @SQLPolice unfortunately, people upvote bad posts too, so that won't work.
    – Kevin B
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:56
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    @SQLPolice and those who post crap questions would never be throttled, stopped, or whatever. The roomba would never clean anything.... I am with the positive pedagogy, but in a site with the size of Stack, it's simply not viable
    – Patrice
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:56
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    The ideal world doesn't exist. The fact of the matter is that bad and possibly dangerous answers are posted all the time, just like bad questions are posted all the time. The only tool you have to help these people is to downvote, otherwise you're teaching them that it is good even if you don't vote at all.
    – user4639281
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:57
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    starting at -10, and not receiving rep unless it gets above 0 for example, would mean the majority of questions/answers result in no gain of rep
    – Kevin B
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:58
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    You clearly need to read this (Jeff Atwood on downvoting) Jul 1, 2015 at 18:11
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    Apparently, I've downvoted over 25000 times (not including posts that have been deleted), and I can safely say: each one of those downvotes was warranted. There is an absolute surplus of crap questions (and to a much lesser extent, answers) on this site. Jul 1, 2015 at 18:13
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    This would be a simple support question (which Servy has answered) without the rainbow-dust Weltanshauung bits. Unfortunately, it's gone completely off the rails because of that. I'd like to edit, but I fear it's far too late.
    – jscs
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:32
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    as someone who mostly downvotes on SO, I can say that this is nonsense - downvotes help separate the crap from the reasonable and the good. Your post here and your 'manifesto' do not convince me otherwise.
    – user4756884
    Jul 1, 2015 at 22:22

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Nope, there is no way and you shouldn't be doing it to begin with. Downvotes aren't negative. Downvotes separate the good from the bad.

If anything we need more downvotes, because we really don't hand out all that many. So please reconsider even for those where you can revert your votes. If it's bad, it's bad.

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    -1 because you told me to downvote more.
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:47
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    YOU UNDO THAT RIGHT NOW!!!
    – Bart
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:47
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    All these mixed signals. Just make up your mind already.
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:48
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    So you're voting to make me happy? Then you're doing it wrong and as a bonus you have annoyed me. You're trying to create some voting utopia which in reality is actively harmful.
    – Bart
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:54
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    @SQLPolice If you're upvoting content purely to make the user happy (or, as appears to actually be the case, because it makes you happy) , rather than based on (your opinion of) the quality of the post in question, then you're actively harming the community. Don't do that. Use votes to indicate the quality of posts, not to make people feel better regardless of the content of the post. Think of every other person who will later read the post in question (which is who votes are actually for). Vote for their sake, rather than just doing what makes you feel good.
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:54
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    @SQLPolice I have considered that world, and it's awful.
    – jonrsharpe
    Jul 1, 2015 at 17:56
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    Don't vote to show me any effect. Vote up because you think it's a great contribution. Voted down because you find it's not. It't a simple mechanism and one of the few things we have to keep quality in check and to clearly signal to others how they should value some of the content. If you go against that, you're actively harming the site. I can't stop you, but would seriously ask you reconsider. You can abstain from voting, but don't change your already cast downvotes unless the value of the posts changed.
    – Bart
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:03
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    To give you a simple example: if more people were like you and someone who posted a constant stream of crap would never receive downvotes, then the ban doesn't kick in. You may not have harmed their feelings, but you've made the site actively worse for all visitors. So while you sit there feeling all warm and fuzzy and positive, we have to find another way to deal with the crap that caused.
    – Bart
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:08
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    We don't want to stop people from upvoting quality posts. We want to encourage that. What we do not want to encourage is not downvoting poor quality posts.
    – Kevin B
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:09
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    Ugh, that word "nourish" is driving me crazy for some reason. Seriously, it makes me feel queasy. Wonder what that's about. Jul 1, 2015 at 18:10
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    If more people were like you, this site would be full of useless junk, and would be completely useless (and dangerous) to all viewers
    – user4639281
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:13
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    No, there would be no more quality posts than there already is, what there would be is a very large amount of crap not being disposed of.
    – user4639281
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:16
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    @SQLPolice More upvotes doesn't make for a more positive atmosphere. On other q/a sites I've been active on in the past that had no equivalent to a downvote were just filled with crap and drivel, making it a completely miserable atmosphere as there was just so much crap content, and what quality content existed couldn't distinguish itself. SO's success is largely a result of the extensive effort it has done to discourage/remove low quality content. It's why it makes so many people so happy when they're able to use the site and easily find quality content.
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:16
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    @SQLPolice You have 6 helpful flags, I have 900+... don't worry, I flag. DV are just another tool. Crap doesn't NECESSARILY warrant a flag. If it's just horribly formatted, not answering the right question, etc etc, I think a flag is too bad... and too "punitive" (to use your own words).
    – Patrice
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:36
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    Who handles flags, @SQLPolice? The moderators. We have a dozen of those. There's tens of thousands of people who can vote up and down. When a mod is presented with a post that you have flagged "this is not the correct answer", and she doesn't know the language it's in, what is she supposed to do? Flagging for "wrong" doesn't scale up.
    – jscs
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:39
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Since no one else seems to have suggested it, there is one way to remove all of your down votes.

You could delete your account. This would effectively nullify all your votes.

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    well, it wouldn't nullify the votes, it would just make them not yours, unless i misunderstand how that process works.
    – Kevin B
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:45
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    @KevinB No, it is really right: If a user is deleted, then all his downvotes are given back. So if a grumpy cat is deleted, then a lot of other users will see "green lights" popping up ;)
    – SQL Police
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:51
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    That's indeed true, however, not an option to me. I'm not self-destructive ;)
    – SQL Police
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:53
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    @Trobbins had to look that up: basically a goober is just a kindhearted, rather oblivious goofball. Haha, LOL!! But that's not the case. I can distinguish between quality and crap, but I want to shift towards quality.
    – SQL Police
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:57
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    @SQLPolice So what about all of the other people reading those posts that can't distinguish between the quality and the crap posts? Do you want to prevent those people from realizing what answers are crap, and to benefit from your expertise, by providing that feedback in the appropriate manor (a downvote)?
    – Servy
    Jul 1, 2015 at 18:59
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    @KevinB: all votes will be removed with the account. Sometimes an exception is made (when a user with a lot of votes wants their account deleted it would be too disruptive, so for special cases the votes are transferred to the Community User).
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jul 1, 2015 at 20:08
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    @MartijnPieters regarding that exceptional case I would add that if they remove downvotes of a very active user, there is a risk of compromising voting anonymity (this happened at MSE when Mark Trapp left). So they have to keep all the votes, up and down, they only transfer these to Community user
    – gnat
    Jul 1, 2015 at 22:05
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No, there is no way to do that.

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