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I see a few questions containing multiple smileys and ellipses (the "...").

Two examples of this scenario:

  1. This ng-idle is not supporting.... :( The $idleProvider throws an error :(

  2. I'm new to angularjs... I tried an approach with ng-idle... The idle.watch() is not working as expected...

Other than that, there is nothing to improve in those questions; the content and code are clear and aligned properly.

The smileys and ellipses are not affecting the readability of the question.

So my question is, can I suggest an edit to remove those smileys and ellipses? Will it be considered a valid edit?

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    I have to admit, it kind of does feel like there's way too many questions with "..." all over the place. Jun 5, 2015 at 7:34
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    Stuff like "I'm new to angularjs" can be edited out as well. Guaranteed there's something else to edit in a question like this, even if it's just tags.
    – jscs
    Jun 5, 2015 at 7:38
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    I reworded the question a little bit; let me know if I changed it too much Jun 5, 2015 at 7:41
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    I always remove ellipses, "thank you", "I am new to Foo", and similar noise. A suggested edit that does the same would get my approval.
    – user1907906
    Jun 5, 2015 at 7:42
  • @DennisMeng: The rewording is fine, the content is now much clear, Thanks.
    – Arulkumar
    Jun 5, 2015 at 7:44
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    "The smileys and ellipses are not affecting the readability" - I disagree, too many of those and the post is a mess.
    – Mat
    Jun 5, 2015 at 7:58
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    I've always wondered..... where people learn to write..... like this.... The unnecessary periods do affect the readability.
    – user247702
    Jun 5, 2015 at 14:38
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    as a reviewer, aren't you supposed to decide that? it's up to you. others might disagree, which is why we have multiple reviewers.
    – user428517
    Jun 5, 2015 at 22:49
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    Even worse than "..." is ".." I don't know why some people just have to stop at two dots, as if three would be way too much effort.
    – laurent
    Jun 5, 2015 at 22:52
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    @sgroves: The reason for asking on meta is that reviewers are not born with an innate knowledge of all the ins and outs of good editing practice, so asking for advice on training one's judgement to be more discerning (without necessarily losing one's own viewpoint) is a very good thing. Jun 5, 2015 at 23:18
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    Those aren't even proper ellipses (…), just three dots. Nuke 'em! (And I say that as someone who occasionally employs ellipses and smileys not only in comments but also in answers, albeit rarely.) Jun 6, 2015 at 13:27
  • ... hm, ... ok ... :)
    – JK.
    Jun 8, 2015 at 3:17

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Yes, I think so. In the same way that improving grammar or removing statements like "sorry, I'm new to <language X>" are valid edits.

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    To be honest, if you have less than 2000 rep (so you need to have your edits vetted, and you're getting rep for the edit), and this is the only thing that you're changing, then it falls into the "does not improve the readability of the question" category IMO. Take some more time to really improve other parts of the question, then certainly it's ok to also remove the ellipses and smileys. Jun 6, 2015 at 4:58
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    There is some merit to what you're saying. But it's not more or less difficult to review than an edit that just fixes indentation issues of code and it certainly does improve the quality of the post.
    – Raniz
    Jun 7, 2015 at 5:48
  • I've noticed an increase of obnoxious edits by certain users in the last week. These edits only consist of removing "Thank you" and "I'm new to Language X". I don't see why they should get any rep for that at all, as it is something that a 3rd grader can do. Jun 8, 2015 at 3:40
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The post has to be clearly better after the edit for me to approve an edit. This is even more important on old posts that are getting few views.

So just removing one smileys, is likely to get rejected by me, but if you also remove a "thank you" and improve the formatting then I may accept it.

Therefore don't search for smileys to remove!, But do remove them if the post needs editing for another reason.

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Possibly try to comment first asking the OP to fix it up before attempting other steps - if the question can really substantially be improved this way.

Keep in mind that SO is heavily used, so just because you spot it does not mean you have to act on it (beyond that comment to instruct the OP). Someone with enough internet points to directly edit the question might just come along and make your day. In popular tags such as the major languages I see questions being edited faster than I can blink.

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    The additional noise of a comment is not worth it to remove a smiley. Just edit it out.
    – chappjc
    Jun 5, 2015 at 22:59
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    Sick of people using "delete" to remove posts they don't like. That's not what "delete" is for. Downvote and move on. Jun 7, 2015 at 17:28
  • @LightnessRacesinOrbit open a meta issue about it - I'd vote for a culture change on that. Jun 7, 2015 at 19:33
  • I think I miscommunicated quite a bit to warrant so many downvotes. The intention was to edit when you can, I was taking into consideration the special case where you don't have enough points to do it yourself which means your edits have to be reviewed - which for small changes such as this is overkill.
    – Gimby
    Jun 8, 2015 at 10:46

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