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I'm referring to this question (now deleted, so visible to 10K users only). The question began thus:

In The Name Of God. I want enable other Qlineedit in my program with write "abc" in another Qlineedit in my program.

Do religious invocations stay, or should they be edited out?

I ask because editing such out seems to my out-of-whack PC sense to be slightly on the sensitive side. I really don't like to offend anyone for non-meritorious reasons (as in: I'll call you out on bad code, not on your religion). If the consensus is to prune such, then prune I'll do.

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    Does the question become less clear if you remove it? If not, then it is noise and has no place in a post.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jun 1, 2015 at 21:38
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    I've removed it from the post; it is no more useful than Thanks in advance and Hello Stack Overflow!.
    – Martijn Pieters Mod
    Jun 1, 2015 at 21:40
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    It is essentially a salutation, and thus should follow the existing policy: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2950/…
    – Adam Davis
    Jun 1, 2015 at 21:40
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    I would especially deny religious statements in "The name of Beelzebub" Bub. You have problems man (eyerolling), noise is noise :-P ... Jun 1, 2015 at 21:44
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    Religious invocations are noise...unless they're related to the second coming of Tony the pony. Jun 1, 2015 at 21:58
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    Looking down the edits it seems the phrase in question has already been edited out once before and replaced by the OP. If he's still watching the question we may expect to see it return.
    – user1864610
    Jun 1, 2015 at 22:11
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    It almost makes the question read like the start of a Nigerian scam. Therefore it should be removed with extreme prejudice. Everyone knows there are plenty of demons but no deities in the programming world.
    – slugster
    Jun 2, 2015 at 0:27
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    Only if it's Hello World and you're a follower of Gaia.
    – C8H10N4O2
    Jul 9, 2015 at 13:19
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    In the name of Sponge Bob the great and all powerful one. No, get rid of it. Questions asked here are for real persons to answer, not for imaginary help.
    – JK.
    Sep 25, 2017 at 3:12
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    I respectfully disagree with Yvette that this is a duplicate of the said questions. For example, the matter being discussed here is quite offset from the single official reference given in the single answer posted to meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/351588/… Jun 16, 2019 at 23:54

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No. It's not material to the question so it's noise and noise should be removed.

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    I respectfully disagree it is noise. For example, "God bless" in the answer; If God indeed blesses a reader who is trying to implement an answer (or even before such time - in helping one find the answer), then one may actually be aided infinitely by such invocation. Jun 16, 2019 at 22:41
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    @Roel: the difficulty with your defence is that it requires a belief in god in order to assess its veracity. You cannot require atheists or agnostics to believe that supernatural blessings might benefit them - they do not believe that, and will not believe it in order to hear your argument.
    – halfer
    Jun 16, 2019 at 23:08
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    I did not state a defence. My comment is 1) a belief, 2) an argument. As far as my comment was my belief (i.e. God exists), that is my own. As for my argument, it stands by it's own and does not require a belief in God. Allow me to explain; any other answer on SO (i.e. without "God bless" in it) which may help (i.e. where it is not clear whether it will help or not) will be left as-is, until such time as greater clarity is achieved. By the same token, whether God exists or not, if my answer includes "God bless" and that may help if God indeed exists, then I submit it should be left alone. Jun 16, 2019 at 23:50
  • @halfer the difficulty with your defence is that it requires a belief in absolute nothingness and a totally random universe functioning all on its own, which obviously makes no sense at all, in order to assess its veracity. You cannot require actual people or agnostics to believe that supernatural randomness might benefit them - they do not believe that, and will not believe it in order to hear your argument. Feb 4, 2021 at 11:22
  • @bluejayke: if you need to make a theistic point in order to further your side of the debate, you've already conceded the wider argument being made: theistic discussion doesn't belong on the site. That remains the case, several years after this meta-question was posted.
    – halfer
    Feb 4, 2021 at 19:33
  • @halfer I dont recall mentioning the term "theist" I identify as a complete atheist, I am rather offended that you would associate me with theistic thoughts at all, nothing about my comment even suggested anything in the slightest about "theist" Feb 4, 2021 at 19:50
  • OK, @bluejayke. You seemed to be making an argument based on Intelligent Design (particularly that you thought that a belief in a random universe was nonsensical, which I thought would imply you believe there is a Higher Power behind it). If you say you were not making that argument, then alright. I am not sure what we are talking about then, given that we are probably in agreement - it seems that your first comment here copy+pastes something I've said already!
    – halfer
    Feb 4, 2021 at 20:10
  • (I advocate making a real effort to not take offence on the internet - taking offense is a widespread Western cultural phenomenon at the moment, and we should all try to resist that if we can. The primary judgement to make on that theme is whether I intended to cause you any offence, and I can assure you that I did not).
    – halfer
    Feb 4, 2021 at 20:11
  • @halfer OK good to know you didnt intend it, I'm not talking about (specifically) this "intelligent design" concept, I'm talking about a Creator that constatnly runs every detail of the world, even now, as opposed to the laws of nature just happening on their own Feb 5, 2021 at 3:43
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I believe if any term used is truly provocative (hateful for example) they should be edited out.

But idioms such as "Thank God", oh "my God", and the likes do not need to be edited out, since they are very common and more importantly not identified as abusive or hurtful, offensive to anyone and if they do get edited and removed, that's when it truly becomes provocative at that moment.

When anything related to such sensitive subjects is to be decided upon, there need to be clear examples of that or personal interpretation can make everything worse.

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    Thanks for being willing to state your case here. I think the community will be in disagreement with it, since it will generally be thought of as "fluff" material in the same way as thanks, salutations, signatures and hope-you-can-helps.
    – halfer
    Sep 23, 2017 at 19:02
  • @halfer: That makes it a completely different case! completely different! Although I do not see thanks or the likes as distractive but thats OK with me and there is no problem with that. However, in order for everything to work out perfectly, I firmly believe a comprehensive list of examples denoting each case for each category need to be available and used so any personal interpretation is avoided and more importantly they can be referenced. and by the way, this community has millions of users, and for your comment to be true, you need to get all of their votes
    – Hossein
    Sep 23, 2017 at 19:14
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    on the subject. This tiny fraction does not represent the whole community in anyway
    – Hossein
    Sep 23, 2017 at 19:14
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    The context for this answer is that Coderx7 would like to thank god for helping them with their answers on the main site. I have trimmed a couple of these out from self-answers, since I think they are not germane to the technical content, but Coderx7 would like to insist upon them, and will roll such edits back.
    – halfer
    Sep 24, 2017 at 11:14
  • I have told you before, you have been trying to provoke me for the past two days now. Let me make it clear for you, If you or anyone else tries to edit my posts which do not have any issues, I will roll those changes back. based on the community guideline concerning edits, the edits need to be substantial and make the post better. This does not apply to any of my posts. especially the one you are talking about. and I am not violating any rules that I know of. You are deliberately trying to offend me. and therefore violating the very primitive rule of the community about bigotry. because
    – Hossein
    Sep 24, 2017 at 12:10
  • your intention is not as you claim, for making the post better! you are trying to impose your own belief system on me and harass me in that regard. in none of your edits, anything useful is added to the post that makes it better or adds to its usefulness, or pretty much any of the matters discussed in the edit guidelines.
    – Hossein
    Sep 24, 2017 at 12:10
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    If you rollback edits that remove noise from questions, and anything about “god” is by definition noise on a programming Q+A site, you will be breaking the rules, and should expect to lose your editing privileges. This is a fight you will never win.
    – Clive
    Sep 24, 2017 at 15:06
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    RE: "a tiny fraction of the community" - currently your answer here is on 18 downvotes and 0 upvotes. So of the people that have seen it and bothered to vote 100% of them disagree. Sep 24, 2017 at 15:32
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    I had no idea that whoever you're talking about is from the UK, I couldn't care less. It's actually rather arrogant that you assume people are disagreeing with you out of spite, and not simply because you're wrong. The only childish behaviour that could come of this is you rolling back edits that remove references to god, unless those references are somehow central to the issue at hand. If you weren't trying to be provocative, you wouldn't even include those references now that you know in certain terms that they shouldn't be there
    – Clive
    Sep 24, 2017 at 15:43
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    You did read your own answer, didn't you? idioms such as "Thank God", oh "my God", and the likes do not need to be edited out, since they are very common and more importantly not identified as abusive or hurtful, offensive to anyone and if they do get edited and removed, that's when it truly becomes provocative Unsurprisingly, that's what people are taking you to task on, not new issues/dilutions you're raising in the comments. If you position has changed, and you now agree that those references should be removed, as part of a proper, full, edit, then update the answer to match
    – Clive
    Sep 24, 2017 at 16:00
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    Again, that's not what your answer says. Seriously, read it again, then read the comments. You're arguing a completely different position in each.
    – Clive
    Sep 24, 2017 at 16:05
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    Comments are not for extended discussion. If you want to make a counter-veiling argument, then do so in a new answer. Sep 24, 2017 at 16:28
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    I don't see any difference between "Thank god" or "Thank you" or "Please help". All of them are just noise to the question and should be removed. Always ask yourself: "When I remove the sentence/phrase would that change the question or any answers to it?". If the answer is no, then remove it.
    – BDL
    Sep 24, 2017 at 17:31
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    The "must remove all of them" part is in my opinion only important for users without editing privilege. For everyone else: Whatever improves the post should be kept. Actually, if you know that your question contains a lot of noise, you should be the first one to remove it.
    – BDL
    Sep 24, 2017 at 17:56
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    And stuff about religion is so gratingly off topic in a programming Q&A don't be surprised if people focus on that. Sep 24, 2017 at 21:27

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