This is a followup to Blacklist the [microsoft] and [apple] tags. The request was asked back in 2013 and not only does microsoft and apple still exist but they are still getting questions using them. The info for both of these tags says to not use them but people are still posting to them. Is there any plan to blacklist and or burn these tags?
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13There's over 7,000 questions in each of those tags combined. As much as I'd like to see them gone myself, it'd be difficult to accomplish without moderator intervention. To be blunt, I'd much rather see that silly "DO NOT USE" notification removed since it's not accomplishing jack.– MakotoMay 8, 2015 at 16:05
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5@Makoto: You mean nearly 7000 in both together. Anyway, is there now a way for moderators to lock a tag, or is that still a distant dream? Because I think that would be just about neccessary for successful cleanup.– DeduplicatorMay 8, 2015 at 16:32
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2@Deduplicator: I think it is possible to blacklist a tag that is still in use, but unrelated edits to the posts start to fail because the new version of the question fails the "no blacklisted tags" check.– Ben VoigtMay 8, 2015 at 17:24
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5Makoto @Deduplicator blacklisting needs developer action. Moderators can't do anything. Maybe you will have some luck poking a random coughanimusoncough CM,– BraiamMay 9, 2015 at 0:38
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1@BenVoigt Is unrelated edits failing a big problem? If people are editing it anyway, they could just remove the tag.– rjmunroMay 11, 2015 at 12:50
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1It would be nice if we could at least get this tag blacklisted so the problem doesn't keep growing. I don't see the problem with forcing an editor to get rid of a bad flag while they are in the post editing it anyways.– NathanOliverMay 11, 2015 at 12:56
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@rjmunro: I'm just repeating the reason the diamond mods give for not blacklisting tags that are still attached to questions. I personally wouldn't expect it to be a big issue either.– Ben VoigtMay 11, 2015 at 14:00
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1Just a reminder to people who might be reading this and considering taking action: please do not attempt to unilaterally manually remove this tag from all these questions, doubly so if you don't have full editing privileges. The discussion on how to handle this is ongoing, and no bulk tag editing should be done by someone whose edits have to go through the review queue - that isn't a good use of reviewer manpower. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/239190/when-to-burninate for more info.– Sam HanleyMay 13, 2015 at 13:48
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@NathanOliver: hey we're down to 2411 from 7000 :)– Our Man in BananasMay 15, 2015 at 19:20
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@OurManInBananas The 7000 was a combined total. the combined total as of right now is 6197.– NathanOliverMay 15, 2015 at 19:24
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1@NathanOliver: well, at least we've killed a lot of the Microsoft ones, plus improved a few questions, flagged a few, I even found a couple of gems and put bounties on them ...– Our Man in BananasMay 15, 2015 at 19:27
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If I edit all 7000 of those questions and change all the microsoft tagged questions to proper tags like microsoft-azure or microsoft-powerpoint or microsoft-excel and all the apple to things like apple-ios etc will I get a gold badge?
But seriously, while it certainly makes sense to remove these tags, it has been mentioned before, there's a chance that some questions will get lost or lose visibility...
Is there a process open to the moderators or programmers to run a script to combine the tags in all questions that have both Microsoft and (say) excel into microsoft-excel? A quick check, and there are 195 questions tagged with microsoft AND excel
This could be a script but would have to include all the possible products and permutations...
Right, I'm off to make a start, I figure if I do 10 per day, by 2020 we should be able to lock those tags!
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24If 700 of us each do 10 edits, we'd have it done in no time, and we could fix / edit / close those questions along the way :-) May 9, 2015 at 20:35
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10@JonasCz: It's Saturday evening and I'm editing posts on SO - how sad is that lol :) May 9, 2015 at 21:06
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2I think your calculation doesn't take into account the amount of tags added daily which are tagged with those meta tags. I think your estimate is optimistic but off by two years. ;)– MakotoMay 10, 2015 at 19:51
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1@Makoto: we're down to 2411 - I guess there's quite a few of us working on this project... May 15, 2015 at 19:21
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2@OurManInBananas Yes, quite a few but you are all making trivial edits that are bumping these posts to the main page.– TarynMay 15, 2015 at 21:58
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1What should we do when reviewing these edits ? They are trivial edits that add little or no value to a questions. I have been skipping them so far, but should we reject them instead ?– AlexMay 23, 2015 at 17:43
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1@Jaco: They shouldn't be made by people who have less than 2000, and whose edits need to be reviewed as far as I understand... May 23, 2015 at 22:55
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Today I have noticed many of these edits in my review queue, in particular as I have been skipping reviews for this type of edit.– AlexMay 23, 2015 at 23:13
Fortunately, microsoft is gone now, but apple's still around and currently discussed again. At least its description reads
DO NOT USE THIS TAG!!! Apple is the company that manufactures Macs and iOS devices. Use tags more relevant to the OS and device/computer you're targeting.